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  • GGUser260
    GGUser260
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 14 Dec 2021 07:51 AM

    Ballofski, "I'm not saying your saying your stressing the shocks like my situation, but the iconic Honda would be coming up to 50 years old, and the standard rear shock absorbers were never known for their fantastic rebound qualities, from memory we used to replace them with about the only available upgrade around in those days, Koni.
    Can you still get koni, or you keen to keep stock as, she still looks pristine? "

    Yes you can still get Koni but they are now made in Australia and called IKon. I actually ordered a set today and they are pretty pricey for what they are at $792 a pair delivered. That is considerably more than I just paid for a pair of Progressive rear shocks for my HD.
    There is also a specialist Honda Four shop in Victoria who as luck would have it had a couple of sets of the pre-load adjusting rings that I broke so ordered a set and will try to put the original shocks back together in case I want to sell it as an original K0 some day.

    Pauly, "Sure the cross was not to signify the death of your shocks...."
    I have seen similar crosses on things here and I reckon they mean something like, "Here is a dangerous problem that MUST be fixed sometime in the next decade or when the council has suitably qualified people on the payroll to address it".

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 Dec 2021 09:25 AM

    Some councils in QLD have been successfully sued for damages to rims etc for pothole damages

    Quoting Far Canal on 14 Dec 2021 09:37 AM

    Maybe so Pauly but I am not a litigious sort of cunt.
    There is a big dangerous tree on the road to my place that had a big bit of it fall on the road many years ago and then some one from the council put a big red cross on the tree shortly afterwards because the rest of the tree looks like a widow, widower, orphan maker. Of course the red cross meant, "get rid of this dangerous fucker asap".
    Tree is still there.
    The cross has disappeared, faded away.
    Not bagging out councils, really just comes down to user beware.

    that's very generous .There is a line between being a litigious cunt and being taken for a dumb cunt.(I am not suggesting that you are the latter)
    Some agencies and corporations have the "treat people like dogshit unless they complain" rule. It is cheaper for them but represents a reprehensible disregard for doing what they should do.
    1) check in at a big hotel in the USA-you get the substandard view .Complain, no problem sir here is a far better room (that matches your pre booked ,months in advance ,request that we should have given you in the first place)
    2) The council were repairing the footpath in the street outside my house. There was an uneven section with a 2" height difference at the join. "No that's not marked as to be repaired" said the lazy casual council concreter. No worries mate, can I get your name because when someone falls and smashes their head and needs someone to blame I want the name of the fella I pointed this out to and chose not to rectify it. Thought... brow furrow, bingo  fix it they did and for bugger all extra effort...
    3) Finally my kid's car was hit and needed a new front bumper(not at fault) Insurance man gives me a spiel about the bumper may not fit properly because of pre-existing damage to the sides...did I want a cash settlement ? No, I said ,"can I pay extra to fix the sides too"? No the insurer's repairer won't do any private work...No worries mate, the bumper was securely on before the crash and it should be fitting just as well afterwards ...just fix it ,if the job's no good I'll chat to your legal team later. 
    Car came back today after 1 week -the  whole front  looks like new. 
    The 3 examples above are what should have been done as a matter of course.
    IT is a fucking disgrace that service is non-existent for some of these profit based, bottom-line bureaucrats. Nobody should need to be the squeaky wheel that gets the most grease(or appear to be a litigious cunt) , we should all be treated with A1 service as the passive respectful customers we all aspire to be.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    3 years ago
    We’re talking about a pot hole…..

    Shit happens and FC is sorting it. Replacing shocks almost 50 years old is likely to be an improvement 
  • GGUser260
    GGUser260
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 14 Dec 2021 10:42 AM

    We’re talking about a pot hole…..


    Shit happens and FC is sorting it. Replacing shocks almost 50 years old is likely to be an improvement 

    The roads are too big to hold the authorities accountable for every pothole out there (non-feasance)
    But if it is brought to their attention that there is a dangerous pothole(maybe on a motorcycle line on a blind corner) and then they choose to do nothing, is it "shit happens" or "shithouse"?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 14 Dec 2021 10:42 AM

    We’re talking about a pot hole…..


    Shit happens and FC is sorting it. Replacing shocks almost 50 years old is likely to be an improvement 

    Quoting GGUser260 on 14 Dec 2021 08:21 PM

    The roads are too big to hold the authorities accountable for every pothole out there (non-feasance)

    But if it is brought to their attention that there is a dangerous pothole(maybe on a motorcycle line on a blind corner) and then they choose to do nothing, is it "shit happens" or "shithouse"?

     The latter. 
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 14 Dec 2021 10:42 AM

    We’re talking about a pot hole…..


    Shit happens and FC is sorting it. Replacing shocks almost 50 years old is likely to be an improvement 

    Quoting GGUser260 on 14 Dec 2021 08:21 PM

    The roads are too big to hold the authorities accountable for every pothole out there (non-feasance)

    But if it is brought to their attention that there is a dangerous pothole(maybe on a motorcycle line on a blind corner) and then they choose to do nothing, is it "shit happens" or "shithouse"?

    You deleted your first reply and then posted this. Which one am i supposed to reply to?

    Some potholes are dangerous and some not so much; but the issue is not as big or complex as the tangent drawn. I’m sure if FC thought it was dangerous enough to hurt somebody he’d report it. 
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 14 Dec 2021 10:42 AM

    We’re talking about a pot hole…..


    Shit happens and FC is sorting it. Replacing shocks almost 50 years old is likely to be an improvement 

    Quoting GGUser260 on 14 Dec 2021 08:21 PM

    The roads are too big to hold the authorities accountable for every pothole out there (non-feasance)

    But if it is brought to their attention that there is a dangerous pothole(maybe on a motorcycle line on a blind corner) and then they choose to do nothing, is it "shit happens" or "shithouse"?

    Quoting fatbat on 15 Dec 2021 02:01 AM

    You deleted your first reply and then posted this. Which one am i supposed to reply to?


    Some potholes are dangerous and some not so much; but the issue is not as big or complex as the tangent drawn. I’m sure if FC thought it was dangerous enough to hurt somebody he’d report it. 


    I think the post stats have disappeared with the forum restructure, but I'm sure pauly would be in front for 'likes' for deleted posts.
    And does a 'like' for the original post and another 'like' for the subsequent post count as one or two ?
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 14 Dec 2021 10:42 AM

    We’re talking about a pot hole…..


    Shit happens and FC is sorting it. Replacing shocks almost 50 years old is likely to be an improvement 

    Quoting GGUser260 on 14 Dec 2021 08:21 PM

    The roads are too big to hold the authorities accountable for every pothole out there (non-feasance)

    But if it is brought to their attention that there is a dangerous pothole(maybe on a motorcycle line on a blind corner) and then they choose to do nothing, is it "shit happens" or "shithouse"?

    Quoting fatbat on 15 Dec 2021 02:01 AM

    You deleted your first reply and then posted this. Which one am i supposed to reply to?


    Some potholes are dangerous and some not so much; but the issue is not as big or complex as the tangent drawn. I’m sure if FC thought it was dangerous enough to hurt somebody he’d report it. 

    Report it ?   We have all hit big FUCK OFF potholes in our days.
    I remember hitting one as I was riding through knee deep floodwater on a main road. 
    I thought if I followed close to the car in front I should be able to see what the story was.
    The car in front must have straddled the pothole but I hit the fucker dead center.
    It must have been at least 2 feet  deep cos I got thrown off the seat and the water came over the handlebars.
    I managed to hang onto the bike but only just.  I think the council fixed it the next day.

  • B0nes
    B0nes
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 20 Dec 2021 10:33 AM

    Just posting this for general perusal, nothing else to say about it from me.

    I know looks are in the eye of the beholder. Not sure what drugs they were on but in my eyes it looks ugly as hell. I might buy it if they dropped a couple of zero's off the purchase price. I would then fit some nice spoke wheels and then try to make the engine look good by painting some parts black and polishing other parts.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 20 Dec 2021 10:33 AM

    Just posting this for general perusal, nothing else to say about it from me.

    Quoting B0nes on 20 Dec 2021 11:19 PM

    I know looks are in the eye of the beholder. Not sure what drugs they were on but in my eyes it looks ugly as hell. I might buy it if they dropped a couple of zero's off the purchase price. I would then fit some nice spoke wheels and then try to make the engine look good by painting some parts black and polishing other parts.

    Gotta agree Bones, was thinking that bike could easily knock some of the BMW's off the podium for being dog ugly.
  • Baloffski
    Baloffski
    3 years ago
    Yeah, it is 'fugly' no argument.
    Plus some cheapo add-ons, like the stop/kill switch stickon labels and the wheels not only 16inch but first thing that jumped out says 'ugly', could go on.
    But gotta admit it is 'unique'.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 20 Dec 2021 10:33 AM

    Just posting this for general perusal, nothing else to say about it from me.

    Quoting B0nes on 20 Dec 2021 11:19 PM

    I know looks are in the eye of the beholder. Not sure what drugs they were on but in my eyes it looks ugly as hell. I might buy it if they dropped a couple of zero's off the purchase price. I would then fit some nice spoke wheels and then try to make the engine look good by painting some parts black and polishing other parts.

    Gentleman hopefully you merely looked at the photos and didn't digest what the bike actually is.....a Prototype. This is only 1 of 2 ever made and cant EVER be replaced. Lastly have a look at the claimed Hp and Tq for a 1994 Hd compared to this bike....in fact look a little later model...
    Hopefully bones if ever you got your mits on a phase 4 Falcon you wouldn't jam a auto into it , hack the springs out of it then repaint it, and in reflection you wouldn't modify a piece of history.
  • B0nes
    B0nes
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 20 Dec 2021 10:33 AM

    Just posting this for general perusal, nothing else to say about it from me.

    Quoting B0nes on 20 Dec 2021 11:19 PM

    I know looks are in the eye of the beholder. Not sure what drugs they were on but in my eyes it looks ugly as hell. I might buy it if they dropped a couple of zero's off the purchase price. I would then fit some nice spoke wheels and then try to make the engine look good by painting some parts black and polishing other parts.

    Quoting paulybronco on 21 Dec 2021 10:10 AM

    Gentleman hopefully you merely looked at the photos and didn't digest what the bike actually is.....a Prototype. This is only 1 of 2 ever made and cant EVER be replaced. Lastly have a look at the claimed Hp and Tq for a 1994 Hd compared to this bike....in fact look a little later model...

    Hopefully bones if ever you got your mits on a phase 4 Falcon you wouldn't jam a auto into it , hack the springs out of it then repaint it, and in reflection you wouldn't modify a piece of history.

    If I had the funds for a Phase 4 Falcon and I could get my mits on it there would be no way in hell I would butcher it, some vehicles need to stay as the factory intended. My pet hate is seeing an older car tastefully modified but then ruined by adding modern oversized rims. Sorry but that bike is screaming out for a set of spoked rims. Would keep all the parts so it could be put back to stock if I was to sell it.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting B0nes on 20 Dec 2021 11:19 PM

    I know looks are in the eye of the beholder. Not sure what drugs they were on but in my eyes it looks ugly as hell. I might buy it if they dropped a couple of zero's off the purchase price. I would then fit some nice spoke wheels and then try to make the engine look good by painting some parts black and polishing other parts.

    Quoting paulybronco on 21 Dec 2021 10:10 AM

    Gentleman hopefully you merely looked at the photos and didn't digest what the bike actually is.....a Prototype. This is only 1 of 2 ever made and cant EVER be replaced. Lastly have a look at the claimed Hp and Tq for a 1994 Hd compared to this bike....in fact look a little later model...

    Hopefully bones if ever you got your mits on a phase 4 Falcon you wouldn't jam a auto into it , hack the springs out of it then repaint it, and in reflection you wouldn't modify a piece of history.

    Quoting B0nes on 21 Dec 2021 11:44 AM

    If I had the funds for a Phase 4 Falcon and I could get my mits on it there would be no way in hell I would butcher it, some vehicles need to stay as the factory intended. My pet hate is seeing an older car tastefully modified but then ruined by adding modern oversized rims. Sorry but that bike is screaming out for a set of spoked rims. Would keep all the parts so it could be put back to stock if I was to sell it.

    Good answer. this bike should not be ridden but preserved as a piece of history, the same as a Phase 4. Pretty soon anything petrol or diesel powered will be in the same boat with EV power taking over. If you had enough money buy a brand new performance car, jam it on jacks in the garage and leave it to your grandkids in the will....they will be very rich but possibly in bitcoin or some other form of crypto.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    3 years ago
    I wouldn’t compare that ugly prototype motorcycle that some manufacturer tried to unsuccessfully claim was going to be a new Indian to a phase iv gto falcon. Like comparing Swiss chocolate to diarrhoea 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 21 Dec 2021 12:30 PM

    I wouldn’t compare that ugly prototype motorcycle that some manufacturer tried to unsuccessfully claim was going to be a new Indian to a phase iv gto falcon. Like comparing Swiss chocolate to diarrhoea 

    I was relying  on people to look beyond the analogy. Prototypes are normally a fairly ugly proposition at the best of times.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 21 Dec 2021 12:30 PM

    I wouldn’t compare that ugly prototype motorcycle that some manufacturer tried to unsuccessfully claim was going to be a new Indian to a phase iv gto falcon. Like comparing Swiss chocolate to diarrhoea 

    Quoting paulybronco on 22 Dec 2021 04:33 AM

    I was relying  on people to look beyond the analogy. Prototypes are normally a fairly ugly proposition at the best of times.

    I think Fatbat has a point Pauly.
    A prototype for a economically succsessful product is no comparison for one that is a dismal failure.
    I'd be surprised if there is anyone with dreadful enough taste to buy that Indian for the asking price.
    Here is an example of a classic prototype that would be a preferable option if you had the spare cash to lash out. willy nilly, on prototypes and you probably could even ride it occasionally as there would be spares out there for a lot of it.

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting fatbat on 21 Dec 2021 12:30 PM

    I wouldn’t compare that ugly prototype motorcycle that some manufacturer tried to unsuccessfully claim was going to be a new Indian to a phase iv gto falcon. Like comparing Swiss chocolate to diarrhoea 

    Quoting paulybronco on 22 Dec 2021 04:33 AM

    I was relying  on people to look beyond the analogy. Prototypes are normally a fairly ugly proposition at the best of times.

    Quoting Far Canal on 22 Dec 2021 08:39 AM

    I think Fatbat has a point Pauly.
    A prototype for a economically succsessful product is no comparison for one that is a dismal failure.
    I'd be surprised if there is anyone with dreadful enough taste to buy that Indian for the asking price.
    Here is an example of a classic prototype that would be a preferable option if you had the spare cash to lash out. willy nilly, on prototypes and you probably could even ride it occasionally as there would be spares out there for a lot of it.

    Absolutely FB.....beautiful old girl. As for the description of "Prototype" i would be more inclined to describe those early bike as "Pre Production" bearing in mind that they started selling them in that form very soon after that unveiling. I believe that there is a blue one for sale in Australia some time back. 
    Sadly the value for ANY collectable vehicle is reduced once some milage is put on it, so although the temptation to enjoy your investment would be so strong the recommendation to maximise the investment dictates that it should only be preserved, not ridden.
    The true value in these bikes is in the original equipment fitted by the factory, the value is slashed for fitting non genuine or non period parts.
  • FBUser214
    FBUser214
    3 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 22 Dec 2021 04:33 AM

    I was relying  on people to look beyond the analogy. Prototypes are normally a fairly ugly proposition at the best of times.

    Quoting Far Canal on 22 Dec 2021 08:39 AM

    I think Fatbat has a point Pauly.
    A prototype for a economically succsessful product is no comparison for one that is a dismal failure.
    I'd be surprised if there is anyone with dreadful enough taste to buy that Indian for the asking price.
    Here is an example of a classic prototype that would be a preferable option if you had the spare cash to lash out. willy nilly, on prototypes and you probably could even ride it occasionally as there would be spares out there for a lot of it.

    Quoting paulybronco on 23 Dec 2021 01:14 AM

    Absolutely FB.....beautiful old girl. As for the description of "Prototype" i would be more inclined to describe those early bike as "Pre Production" bearing in mind that they started selling them in that form very soon after that unveiling. I believe that there is a blue one for sale in Australia some time back. 

    Sadly the value for ANY collectable vehicle is reduced once some milage is put on it, so although the temptation to enjoy your investment would be so strong the recommendation to maximise the investment dictates that it should only be preserved, not ridden.
    The true value in these bikes is in the original equipment fitted by the factory, the value is slashed for fitting non genuine or non period parts.


    Not many collectors are riders and not many riders are collectors.


    low-miles-motorbike.jpg
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 22 Dec 2021 08:39 AM

    I think Fatbat has a point Pauly.
    A prototype for a economically succsessful product is no comparison for one that is a dismal failure.
    I'd be surprised if there is anyone with dreadful enough taste to buy that Indian for the asking price.
    Here is an example of a classic prototype that would be a preferable option if you had the spare cash to lash out. willy nilly, on prototypes and you probably could even ride it occasionally as there would be spares out there for a lot of it.

    Quoting paulybronco on 23 Dec 2021 01:14 AM

    Absolutely FB.....beautiful old girl. As for the description of "Prototype" i would be more inclined to describe those early bike as "Pre Production" bearing in mind that they started selling them in that form very soon after that unveiling. I believe that there is a blue one for sale in Australia some time back. 

    Sadly the value for ANY collectable vehicle is reduced once some milage is put on it, so although the temptation to enjoy your investment would be so strong the recommendation to maximise the investment dictates that it should only be preserved, not ridden.
    The true value in these bikes is in the original equipment fitted by the factory, the value is slashed for fitting non genuine or non period parts.

    Quoting FBUser214 on 23 Dec 2021 08:04 AM


    Not many collectors are riders and not many riders are collectors.


    low-miles-motorbike.jpg
    Never a truer saying.
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