If it is any help Fatbat I firstly went for 6" pullback T bars, 31" wide, then changed to 8" pullback, 30" wide. You wouldn't think 2" makes much difference but it does, I find the current bars perfect. I do have WG triple trees with 3 degrees rake though. As you can see from the photo they come back a fair way too. The other bike is my son's.