What have I done wrong

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  • bloodog
    bloodog
    7 years ago

    I just went to repco payed $68.00 for a new torque wrench, went home and started to do up my primary as I just changed the oil.  As my work shop manual has not yet arived,I went to youtube found a guy showing how it was done and recons 12 foot foot pounds for primary cover nuts. I had done them up the night before just nipped up nice, and was now supprised with my new torque wrench at how far I was tightening them and snap broke it of . I set the tool to what I though was 9 how have I fucked up....
    Thanks bloodog

     


     



  • Retroman
    Retroman
    7 years ago
    "Primary cover nuts" , you mean the derby cover bolts ?

    10Nm , no more , that's 10 Newton/metres.

    The 5/8 "sump" bolt is 15 Ft/Lbs MAX m I usually set them at 13Ft/Lbs
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    7 years ago
    You've got it set closer to 18 ft-lbs.
    You need to do a little research on how to use/set a torque wrench.
    If you look at the first number near the adjuster, it says 20.7
    You bought the wrong size torque wrench .

    Should be a 3/8" or a 1/4" for smaller bolts.
    The larger units either don't go low enough, or aren't accurate enough in the lower limits.
  • gidgi
    gidgi
    7 years ago
    shitt thats bad luck looks like its just shy of 20 ft-lbs
  • steelo
    steelo
    7 years ago

    Hi BD. Sorry to hear.

  • walka
    walka
    7 years ago
    I doubt that those cheap 1/2 drive torque wrenches would be actuate at the lower scale .
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    7 years ago
    inch pounds vs foot pounds. I have a small more accurate unit for the small bolts and a large one for the big ones like axle nuts etc.
  • Vic
    Vic
    7 years ago
    Yep you got it set at 18 or so f/p as said.

    Just remember if you feel as if your putting to much force on something when tightening,
    you probably are.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    7 years ago

    I searched on here for broken bolt read a few lads experiences  had a think.....
    went back out to bike pulled of the cover got a small thin punch tapped the broken thread around and she came out piece of piss yeeeeharrr
    I was feeling pretty shitty with my self  .... and now I have been out got new bolt $2.00 taken back torque wrench to shop for full refund spirts are high again, now looking on ebay for a 3/8 torque wench around $100.00 maybe a good used one 

    Thank you HD search 

  • walka
    walka
    7 years ago
    Just tighten them without it,
  • allde
    allde
    7 years ago

    The best torque Wrench for inch pounds.

    Warren and Brown, got a couple of these. either 3/8" or 1/4" Drives

     


  • Hound_Dog
    Hound_Dog
    7 years ago
    Classic mistake...inch punds instead of foot pounds. Rarely do I ever use a TQ wrench except for the more important stuff like heads etc. Things like primary cover bolts etc just do by hand.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    7 years ago
    A technique that can help is to use a 1/4" ratchet with an extension.
    It makes it very hard to overtighten things.
  • Bilko
    Bilko
    7 years ago
    Torque wrenches only come in 2 brands, Warren Brown or SnapOn. Everything else is garbage, might as well just guess.

    You will need at least 3 to do all jobs. 1/2" 3/8" and 1/4" drive.

    They are designed to be accurate in the middle of their range.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    7 years ago

    Im gunu go by feel for now { Thank you }, and until I do not feel confenident to judge the tightness, then I will buy one with a bit more experiance in hand 

    Merry christmas........ Cunt faces  Its pissy time 

  • Wimbo
    Wimbo
    7 years ago
    Great news. I saw this, this morning and new you were going to be fucking pissed off.So, I didnt say anything. Went out and just come back, good news BD and have a merry Christmas.
  • Cruise 62
    Cruise 62
    7 years ago

    +1, inherited from my father- priceless bit of kit.

     

  • Hoodeng
    Hoodeng
    7 years ago
    Hi guys , you can take or leave what I am about to say ,but I do this stuff for a living , people pay me to get it right , the way to minimize errors is to use all tools and information that is correct for the job at hand before you start ,and have the relevant manual open and followed whilst performing a job,,,and yes ,,,after even nearly 40 years I still have a manual open for the relevant model or fitment bulletins or whatever information a manufacturer deems necessary for a successful outcome.
    For every fastener there is a specification, no exceptions, all information is in the factory manual for every fastener including whether the fastener has a retaining compound or lubricant involved in its fit up, or could be a one shot fastener , and a torque sequence and or specification.
    When I am assembling anything, there is no worse feeling than a fastener that is being torqued to spec starting to feel it creep and not come up on feel of positive resistance to the torque being applied. This is almost always caused by the thread bore/fastener being damaged previously from over tightening or abuse. On some assemblies I will torque up an assembly before starting any remedial work to see if a thread will pull as some of the older stuff has a bit of a history of pulling threads ,this can all be inserted, Heli coiled or weld and machined before any overhaul takes place.
    I have included a photo of the torque wrenches that are used here ,ranging from the inch pound Warren& Brown through to the 600lb Blue Point ,and finally the Norbar torque multiplier and everything in between , there is also a picture of the Loctite products that I use ,each has a specific application ,some are used a lot and others rarely ,but they are all necessary for specification ,there is no one grade that does all. I wouldn’t expect anyone other than another person in my environment to have this range of equipment.
    I understand a lot of guys like to work on their own gear and love to learn as they go or build on an ability that already exists, and feel a personal satisfaction in completing a task successfully, in my experience this can be achieved repeatedly but I found many many years ago the repeat ability came from sticking to a regime of accuracy.
  • Hoodeng
    Hoodeng
    7 years ago



  • steelo
    steelo
    7 years ago

    Thanks Hoodeng. Very sobering but timely advice. Regards

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