Stereos on tourers

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  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago

    Unfortunately this forum does not have much information on stereos and upgrades.  Maybe it's do do with tourers not being overly popular here in comparison to the USA where 'baggers' and bagger stereo upgrades are very popular.

    This post may assist with sharing information and ideas.

    I'm looking at upgrading the stereo on my 2013 Road Glide Custom - the factory stereo is crap.  Sound quality is crap, speakers are crap, head unit is crap - the whole thing is crap.  Using the aux port is also crap in terms of sound quality and you can't use the handlebar controls when using the aux.  I'm not going to spend more money on the Ipod module as whilst it'll improve ipod sound quality over the aux port and enable use of the handlebar controls for ipod control, it's a lot of money for what it is and the rest of the stereo is still crap anyway.

    I've reasearched some of the yank forums as there are some forums and some users there whose lives appear to be focused on harley stereos!

    I have the following planned:

    - Arc Audio 602 moto 6.5 inch speakers and adaptor rings for the fairing, buying via the Australian distributor for Arc Audio.  Supposedly one of the best, bass sounding 6.5 speakers available but require a bit of power to make them work well.  Not cheap, almost $600 AUD delivered to me.  Other speakers I considered were Biketronics' speakers, Hertz speakers and Focal speakers - all of which have been tried and tested on Harleys.

    - JVC KD-R97MBS head unit which has bluetooth, USB, 4 volt pre-outs, all sorts of other stuff I probably won't use.  Of importance to me is that it's marine standard and whilst it's not waterproof, it has some resistance to moisture and has a display that's black text on white background which will be key for seeing the display on a road glide in conditions involving sun and glare.  Buying online for about $150 AUD delivered.

    - Biketronics amp, either their 4 channel or 2 channel amp - both put out 180 watts RMS per channel and are designed specifically to fit neatly inside of harley fairings.  Interestingly they don't have any gain and other settings to fiddle with as they're pre-tuned to work for most people's applications and the manfacturers sell other audio gear with lifetime warranty which without gain settings cannot be easily blown up on account of people not tuning amps correctly.  Also looking at Biketronics' matching amp mount, head unit splash cover and their multi-brand radio install kit which includes everything required to mount an aftermarket head unit, which includes most importantly a plug and play control module to allow you to maintain your oem handlebar radio controls and AVC for JVC, Sony, Kenwood, Alpine and Clarion head units.  Lifetime warranty on all of Biketronics' stuff, which is made in the USA.  They recommend and sell the JVC head unit among a couple of Sony and Kenwood units but I'll buy the JVC one elsewhere cheaper which will enable me to keep the Biketronics' transaction under $1,000 AUD to avoid Australian customs import duty.  Will cost under $1,000 AUD delivered to me or maybe a bit more if I buy Biketronics' four channel amp for more speaker options down the track in the fairing lowers or pannier lids.

    All this gear is supposedly very easy to install with plug and play looms and wiring etc.  The lifetime warranty on the Biketronics stuff is appealing, all the more given they've been around for years and make/sell their items.

    I considered a class d Soundstream Amp (pn4.1000d) which is cheaper and puts out similar power to the amp above but it's not sold in Australia and I could have warranty issues with it buying in the USA.  It's a cheaper amp made in Asia, has settings that have to be tuned which I'm a little opposed to as I don't want to be having to take my fairing on and off to fine tune amp settings, and apparently many people using this amp have had issues with losing their FM radio signal.

    To anyone with a recent CVO or Rushmore bike with the latest boom upgraded gear, I hear they're very good and luckily for you there is probably no need for you to consider upgrades...

  • graz
    graz
    8 years ago

    Interested to see some feedback on the the newer Rushmore Tourers. My 16 Streety sounds pretty good most of the time and it all works a treat with my Ipod. Only need it at about 3/4 volume at highway speeds. I think the speakers could do with a bit of an upgrade as they do get a bit average with some music.

    I have considered the Hogtunes setup just for a bit more grunt. Pretty good value at around $600+ for amp and speakers on Griffens who have now gone. Anyone know if there is another aussie supplier?

     

     

     

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    8 years ago

    I have a hog tunes amp on my 2012 street glide, good amp but overpowers the std speakers

  • Tim S.G.
    Tim S.G.
    8 years ago

    I,ve got all HD Boom gear on mine . Very expensive , but plug and play , and it works . That said , I use an ipod , and some songs are louder than others , but not the stereos problem . Can hear music at high speed no worries . Amp is 300w 4 channel .

  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago

    Yeah I've heard your stereo tim and it sounds a treat!  Is your 300 watt amp 300 x 4, or 75 x 4?


    Re the volume levels on diff music, you can download free software off the web to normalise volume on all of your mp3 files so that they play or peak at the same volume. It's quick and easy to do and very flexible 

  • Tat2_u
    Tat2_u
    8 years ago
    After putting 10" bars on my street glide the standard mirrors were useless so I installed a component speakers to get ride of the holes in the batwing inner
    I went with Hertz HSK165 xl speakers mounted the cross overs in the speaker pods I also replaced the shitty 75 watt per channel @ 2 ohm amp with a Class D Hertz HCP4D amp
    the speakers will handle 250 watts all day the amp is 4 channel and as I only have speakers in the batwing I can bridge it to give me 260 watts far more than I need
    I currently have it running unbridged giving me 130 per channel @ 4 Ohm which is plenty loud enough and have 2 spare channels should I add more speakers in lowers should I get some or in bag lids if I can find a set that I like the look of ( Non Harley )
    this total upgrade cost me just under a thousand dollars
  • Tat2_u
    Tat2_u
    8 years ago

    Fatbat I bought it all here in Australia the sound is very rich and full I now have Bass and much better treble
    the tweeters are also liquid cooled so ill never have issues with them Crossovers are adjustable also the Amp is Auto turn on  
    Hertz do make Brilliant speakers the HSKs have lots of punch
    I went with Hertz gear after doing Hours and Hours of research I looked at Focal speakers but after listening to them I thought they fell short in bass
    if I had to do it all again id go with the same Amp and speakers The Amp was easy to set up easy to install and fitted in the same spot as the Harley Boom Audio amp
    Install was easy as I ran a power wire from Battery and a ground to the frame made up a set of spade connections so I didn't need to cut Factory wiring and that was it
    Hardest job was pulling the speaker pods out to fit the 6.5 inch speakers

  • Spook
    Spook
    8 years ago
    Why would ya need all that stuff?......I'll tell yez.........coz you are unable to sing as well as the Spook, that's why!
  • sic-puppy
    sic-puppy
    8 years ago
    spook , cause i,m a wee bit deaf.
    ive got the ss pn4.1000 amp[just waiting on my amp tray to arrive ] a set of hertz in the fairing now , a set of moto,s 602 [ for my lowers which are on their way ]
    so i,m hoping to have this all set up i,n the next couple of weeks and its going in a 2014 streetglide
    fatbat ive got a set of adaptor rings here $25 +postage and their yours
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago
    Tat (and Tim)
    The program I use is called mp3gain. Should be free but careful where you download it from as theres always malware, adware and viruses on some of those free download sites. I can't remember where I downloaded mine but I've had no problems but always have updated virus protection and all that sort of stuff.

    Sic-puppy when you say you're getting a tray for your soundstream amp, where are you getting it and is it guaranteed to enable easy mounting inside your fairing? I was tempted with that same amp and can save a few dollars in the process
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago
    Sic puppy, re those adaptor rings can you tell me more about them? Used, brand, made of what material etc?
  • Spook
    Spook
    8 years ago
    Buy a Road King..................just sayin'.
  • sic-puppy
    sic-puppy
    8 years ago
    fatbat, mate the rings are brand new ,never used are are a heavy molded plastic ,there dragonfly branded.
    the amp tray is the j&m brand brought from directcycleparts in the states ,its a bit pricey but it comes highly recommended[ they have it listed at $119 instead of $150 from j&m]
    and if your quick there is a set of brand new moto 602,s for sale on the us forum at $280 which is a bargin
    cheers

    ian
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago
    Thanks all round Ian. I'll hold off on buying your adaptor rings for now until I purchase my speakers as I won't rule out a different size speaker depending on what's available at a good price.

    Thanks for the tip about those 602 speakers on the other forum. I msgd the bloke and hopefully he's not one of those guys that refuses to post outside of the USA.

    I've read good things about j&m hardware, but their rep on audio isn't too good anymore. I'll be keen to hear how your soundstream, hertz and moto set-up goes. What head unit are you running or have you got the Rushmore unit? I'm now looking at a Sony marine head unit that has dual usb inputs, 6 volt outputs but not avail here in Oz
  • sic-puppy
    sic-puppy
    8 years ago
    at the moment im using the stock hu but will be using the biketronics line levelers if and when they answer my emails lol
    i hope he does mail outside the us , but its strange but hey ,i mean you pay for it lol it must be to hard for some
    i,m hoping that chris lowe from garage bagger stereo has his new double din set up ready soon so i can change out my head unit that way
  • Tim S.G.
    Tim S.G.
    8 years ago

    The Boom H-D speakers are 2 ohm .

  • sic-puppy
    sic-puppy
    8 years ago
    Mark, how did you get on with the moto,s ?has he come back to you yet
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago
    Hi Ian. Waiting on the seller to respond. Receiving a price posted today hopefully from another usa forum member who's also an arc retailer. He's just chasing up some shipping costs for me. Got a price from him for a Sony head unit too which was reasonable. The Australian arc retailer's price for these speakers is higher than I ideally want to pay but may still go that route for ease of any post-sales support/warranty etc
  • clackavosticus
    clackavosticus
    8 years ago

    I got the biketronics 4180 amp and biketronics 2014 BT7P14 PRO speakers for front, (Alpine SPR60s in back) as a package from biketronics USA for my 2014 FLHTK. Everything was plug and play and it sounds awesome! The great advantage is the amp fits neatly under your fairing - it doesn't take up extra tour-pak space like the BOOM II amp does...Recommend it highly. They packaged everything real nice and sent it all the way from USA no problems! Price wasn't excessive either - give their web page a look: Biketronics.com

    If ordering online quote "HDFORUM" in the section that asks for the coupon code and you'll get a 10% discount off quoted prices. This also works if ordering directly via email like I did - just mention you are a HDFORUM (USA) member and you'll get the discount.

     

  • fatbat
    fatbat
    8 years ago
    Thanks clacka. Glad you're happy with your set-up.

    I just ordered an amp, amp mount, splash cover and install kit from biketronics tonight.

    That forum discount code is always available but they also have some sales where they offer bigger discounts. Right now is memorial day weekend in the USA and they offer 15% off when you use discount code "honor". They were pretty reasonable with postage cost too at $60 usd.

    Now to get the speakers and head unit I'm after at the right price
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