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Police Blitzing on motorcycles

  • AlHD48
    AlHD48
    8 years ago

    I think its a good idea to keep motorcyclists safe, however why arent they targeting car drivers aswell ??? many stupid car dirvers are on their phone and they cause much more damange .

     

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/victoria-police-motorcycle-blitz-to-target-rogue-riders-after-horror-year-for-accidents/news-story/2250a28026cf949afda4eab8fe66eaa3#load-story-comments

     

  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    8 years ago

    IF they target riders more this week then it's a stupid policy, since cops are supposed to target speeders and whatnot anyway, no matter what the vehicle. The headline helps fill the newspaper though and, I presume, is just supposed to make riders think..

  • AlHD48
    AlHD48
    8 years ago

    I was on the western ring road today and seen 4 cop bikes heading towards Melbourne and 4 heading towards Geelong, so they are out there pulling people over .

    not that many bikes out though , other than the cops

    too right Bonkerz

  • Cruise 62
    Cruise 62
    8 years ago

    I think the bikes are a great way of enforcing road rules to all. Personally the amount of car drivers that are occupied with other activities on the road is amazing. Whilst there is an element of stupidity by some motorcyclists this initiative can only help us all with a greater police presence. As long as a Balanced aproach is maintained by the constabulary!

  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    8 years ago
    The problem is when cops are finding nothing to do, they are always made to find something to do. As always, good riders suffer because of fuckwits.
  • AlHD48
    AlHD48
    8 years ago
    yes agree , sucks that the good riders suffer, apparently they pull you over and give you a lecture. i really hope they pull people over who drive their cars who are on their mobile phones, they will have better visibility.

    this is a good example

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gtio4V1L3o
  • Krackers60
    Krackers60
    8 years ago

    The police are blitzing riders because of the 29 rider deaths so far this year in Victoria.  

    VicPol love their blitzes because it makes them feel that they are achieving something and can thump their chests in meetings and in the media.

    They have turned their untrained eyes towards protective clothing, evading the real reasons for the deaths.  Here is my comment.

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    But what were they wearing?

    A stolen bike did not kill the rider, nor did not having a licence or the unregistered bike.

    No where in any of the reports on the deaths of the riders has there been mention (to my knowledge) that the cause been reported as a lack of protective clothing. It has been striking an an immovable object that has caused fatal injuries. That object has been cars, signs, trees, railing and other roadside furniture.

    The reasons for the actual collisions are many and varied, whether it is single or multi vehicle.

    Back to the original question. I agree that riders should wear clothing that is protective, but that is always subjective. Is the protection required from the elements - sun, rain, cold etc,; or is it from the event of losing control of the bike and hitting the ground? Once again the quality and design of clothing comes into question, depending on the requirements of the rider.

    I could continue breaking down different components to the discussion but i think that I have made my point in regards to the personal choice of sensible clothing. Victoria Police have bundled the rider death in with the debate on protective clothing, once again VicPol is typically looking at numbers, not causation, resulting in media hype and public outcry.

    Rider behaviour is the main cause of collisions or incidents, the next is car driver behaviour and then it goes down the list regarding road design, road quality, road side furniture, weather conditions and so forth. Rider behaviour covers a multitude of actions.

    Before the knee-jerk reaction by VicPol takes on unstoppable snowball proportions regarding clothing, there needs to be an extensive investigation into rider deaths, examining the cause of the collision, actual injuries suffered and clothing worn. Only then a correlation can be drawn between fatality and protective clothing. I doubt that there ever will be such an in-depth study undertaken to truly reveal the reasons for rider collisions and outcome.

    Protective clothing does not protect against the severe impact that causes death, it protects against other injuries.

    Recently I saw a road safety poster stating "Dress for the slide, not the ride". It does make sense. You will never see a poster stating "Dress for the high speed impact with a tree caused by the potholes on the corner that caused loss of traction".

    There is a huge difference between enforcing road rules and debating protective clothing.

  • Tat2_u
    Tat2_u
    8 years ago


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  • careyman
    careyman
    8 years ago
    unlicenced doesn`t mean was them who caused the accident..unregistered the same...stolen bikes the same...even being over .05 doesn`t mean they caused it...this is some BS reporting....
  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    8 years ago

    Never let the facts get in the way of a good story, especially when it gives the government a reason to save us from ourselves. They'll probably be pushing new laws and fees any day now.

  • JFE
    JFE
    8 years ago
    You blokes speaking a lot of sense here. Fact is most people support good law enforcement based on facts and reality. This is not that.
  • groover
    groover
    8 years ago
    Meanwhile a mate of mine was killed in Victoria this year while sitting at the traffic lights waiting for the red. Car rear ended him at 90 km/h. Wonder if he was on the stats?
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    8 years ago

    I thought cops always have sorta blitzed on bike riders.

    Not often you hear of "Cops leave motorcyclists alone this weekend Blitz"

    Do ya?

  • Ric
    Ric
    8 years ago
    Sorry to hear that Groover, the amount of times I have had to go through an amber light because the knucklehead behind clearly has no intention of even remotely looking like stopping.

    It's very scary to see them flying up behind you and you haven't got a clue if they are going to stop or not.
  • Speedy
    Speedy
    8 years ago
    Fark ....

    I should take more notice of what's going on, in my ( shaky ) mirrors.

    Reportedly, ( and most unfortunately ) a lot of our southern bike riding cousins, have 'left us' this year.
  • Wimbo
    Wimbo
    8 years ago
    I'm always checking my mirrors when I stop or turn, too many fukwits out there that think they are experts.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    8 years ago
    I have seen a larger undercover car presence on the Monash in the mornings and afternoons, although they do not seem to be targeting bikes specifically.