V&H FP3 starts with a canned map but I have then autotuned it and if I load the old map I can tell the difference straight away (decal pop comes back, not as smooth on acceleration).  Brian was very open about not really knowing what the V & H tunner could and couldn't do.  I think its more about him not being able to connect to it and he feels the bands arent naroow enough.  If we believe V&H they say you dont need to DynoHe tuned a mates bike with a 120R and he is over the moon with the tune and I havent meet anoyne yet you has said abad word about Brian, he is literally around the corner from my factory.  My bike gets ridden a lot as I use it for work so my tune is more about day to day running not racing and being I keep up with pretty much everyone I have ridden with I'm not too fussed about going too much faster just a bit more low down grunt of the line woud be nice, so I'm now tryng to figure out the best cam selction, and saving the cash as the cook keeps an eye on the credit card for bike bits and gives me hell when she see them.