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May be very interesting for us motorcyclists

  • mick44
    mick44
    8 years ago

    On the ABCs Catalysts programe tonight.

    Testing reaction times for bikers riding in warm weather ect, but what might be really interesting is that there looking at motorcycle gear such as leathers ect, and wether they actually protect. There doing a piece on how long materials in your riding gear can take sliding along the bitumen. The reporter said that most riding gear fails and is not fit for purpose. I think he said that it was riding gear, not so much helmuts. Just watched the ad promo on ABC 24. caught only some of this so I hope I read the add promo right.

    Might be worth a bo peep.

  • Speedy
    Speedy
    8 years ago
    Thanks for the heads up, Mick.

    I'm currently in the market for some of this stuff, so will be keen to learn.
  • JFE
    JFE
    8 years ago

    I though it was interesting how some leather was absolute crap for protection, as well as various cooling panels/etc compromising integrity of wear areas. The show reiterated the value of the European CE system but noted how some jackets that claim they met this was in the armour on only. Made me look at my HD jacket twice. I too think some sort of star system makes sense as there are so many different brands and options on the market these days that I think it dilutes good decision making.

    I will add as an aside, that I've read some of the researchers work on Motorbikewriter and wasn't impressed -- they tested a lot of kit, made a song and dance about a lot of it failing but didn't release the info or name names. It was like 'well, thanks for that'. And you walk away shaking your head.

  • mick44
    mick44
    8 years ago

    Opened my eyes up a bit. I agree with posts above. I think all motorcycle aparell ect should have a rating according to some type of acceptable standard. Particularly as a thicker jacket will have more abrasion resistance over a set distance  compared to a thinner jacket containing same material. A rating system would at least give the purchaser the info to make an informed choice. With helmuts, we know they have to be built to the Australian Standard but we still have the choice of open face,, full face ect, So I reckon a rating on jackets, ect would work.

  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    8 years ago
    I'm no expert, but I try to research what I buy (even when everyone is saying how great it is), but I think ratings would be fantastic if they were done by an independent party with nothing to gain. I still think people should be free to wear what they want (Hell, I've ridden naked on occasion) but there's nothing better than having the information on hand when you want it.
  • keith
    keith
    8 years ago
    I watched that on Catalyst last night, very informative and a bit of a eye opener, ratings system is the way to go similar to UV rated apparel.
    Like to see the boys on Myth Busters have a crack at this one !
  • 92Fatboy
    92Fatboy
    8 years ago

     I reakon some gloves that bike shop sell are useless and wouldn't hold up in a slide crash but yet are pretty pricey. I'd like to see motorbike air bag clothing made available so if come off it would be like landing on a pillow.

     

  • mick44
    mick44
    8 years ago

    The show tested a patch of kevlar lined jeans on there machine and I note that the reporter said that kevlar lined jeans dont contain kevlar fibers in all the jeans material, only in the parts that are likely to slide along the road such as hips, knees, elbows, ect. I think the reporter was generalizing as specific brands wernt mentioned. Then I got to thinking, allthough ive never wore anything but regular jeans on the bike, if i was to buy kevlar lined jeans and spend the money, ide naturally be buying them for added protection if i come off the bike and slid down the pavement. Now if I did purchase, Ide want to know which kevlar lined jeans rated the highest or near highest and why they rated so high, For eg: do the more expensive one have more kevlar in jeans and more kevlar covering more of the jeans in areas that the show said dont have kevlar in the jeans. How would I know if im buying better kevlar jeans than the next brand. 

    A shop will want to sell the brand they stock so your not going to get the best advice verses safety verses cost.

    Seems like a real good reason to rate apparall, specially products that claim to have an extra safety margine built in. Fatboys post shows shows that gloves should be rated as well as its probably a natural reaction to put your hands out on the road while sliding on it particularly if heading toward a gutter, ect

    Im a tee shirt and jeans bloke around town and a leather jacket bloke out of town so im not suggesting mandatory rules on wearing clothing on a motorcycle but the consumer should be able to at least make an informed choice where product performace is important in your decision to purchase.

    Sleeping bags dont seem to have any problems rating there gear, You woulnt buy a tropics/hot weather rated sleeping bag to go to Antartica and expect it to stop you freezing to death would you.

     

  • Speedy
    Speedy
    8 years ago
    Re: Kevlar jeans ...

    HD jeans are about 3x the price of a 'regular' brand or two ...

    Must be 3x the quality / protection, huh ?
  • bobby bob
    bobby bob
    8 years ago
    I my 45+ years of motor cycling I've made it a point to be careful and defensive, had a few minor spills but nothing too bad, never had full face or titanium jocks or airbag jacket, there will always be a lunatic element and natural selection takes care of them no matter what they wearing, ya pays ya money and ya takes ya chances.
  • Speedy
    Speedy
    8 years ago
    So ...

    My money could perhaps, be best spent elsewhere ?

    ( I hate how HD 'asks' for a significantly higher premium, for items that are probably in no way, better than a lesser priced product )

    I know ....

    It's all about 'image' and cock size.
  • Wimbo
    Wimbo
    8 years ago
    There's a company in Melbourne ( cant remember the name atm) and they make Kevlar jeans. Two pieces.
    The Kevlar section is separate to the jean. So, you put the kevlar section on first, then the jean.
    I would assume that these would be the ones that are better then leathers.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    8 years ago

    Draggin Jeans are Melbourne based and top quality, but pricey - mind you ts peace of mind your buying.

    Another company in Melbourne called "Bikers Gear" also sells Kevlar gear at a very good price (about $150 for jeans). Its made overseas but the Kevlar is the right thread count.

     

    You can download the ABC Catalyst episode from here:  http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/tv/catalyst/catalyst_16_17_09.mp4

  • Geoff3DMN
    Geoff3DMN
    8 years ago
    I've got 1 pair of Draggin Jeans and 2 pairs of Bikers Gear kevlar jeans, there is actually more aramid fibre in the Bikers Gear jeans than there is in the Draggin Jeans ones but the Denim in the Draggin Jeans is better quality (neater sewing, feels better made).

    If pushed I'd say I prefer the Draggin Jeans ones but not to the point of double the cost.