SEPST Tuning for dummies

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  • See you NT
    See you NT
    7 years ago
    Well, tried to start tuning today. Fail. When I hit program, it comes up with an error.
    "No communication with VCI. Check for power and loose cabling"

    Double checked all connections. All good. Got me fucked why? $600 worth of tuner and cabling that's good for fuckall! Not happy! It's weird, because I can get the last installed map to come up, so it must be seeing something?
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    7 years ago

    check the run switch is ON ( really easy to miss that one !)

    Have a battery tender hooked up the whole time

    Be sure the software on the computer has been updated within the last 30 days ( internet access required !)

    Be sure to allow "updating" of the VCI itself during the reflash process

  • noctm
    noctm
    7 years ago
    the software can be a bit funny sometimes
    try hooking it up in different orders and see if that helps. so hook it all up and then turn the ignition on. if that doesnt work try plugging it into the computer and then once the bike is on hook it up and so on so forth. 

    i'd also try different USB ports on the computer.
  • Sparra
    Sparra
    6 years ago
    Can someone tell me how to turn the acr's on??
    Cheers...

  • Retroman
    Retroman
    6 years ago

    It is in the tuning setup. At the bottom below decel enleanment

    Series of horizontal windows appear when you click on the "working" tab

    8th tab along horizontally is the ACR

    Open that and select ACR enabled

    While there check the active exhaust is off if that calibration has the feature

    Hope this makes sense mate , it is easier to "show" than "tell"

  • jordan1200
    jordan1200
    5 years ago
    OK, I hope my questions aren't too basic. I am new to the EFI tuning coming from an evo sportster with a Mikuni HSR42 and a wideband AFR. I just purchased a 2010 SG (bone stock). I have a SE Pro Tuner and SEPST cable. I just purchased an new old stock SE night stick muffler for the factory 2 into 1 on the SG and want to get an SE air cleaner to go with it.
    Questions:
    1) If I want to do a base run before I do any mods and save the recorded files and base config, to be able to revert back to the stock config should I totally bugger it up, Is there a factory config file in the software or do I have to save mine? If so a recommended approach for log and base factory config tune?

    2) Do I need to do a tune with only the SE slip-on?

    3) Is there any way to use the innovate wideband AFR with my SG or is it just not compatible.

    4) Anybody ever use the mytune software? in conjunction with SE Pro Tuner? thoughts?


  • Retroman
    Retroman
    5 years ago

    Yowzah ! An old thread revitalised

    Well Jordan me old mate , in the USA , and Canada as well I presume , the Supertuner Pro is as " dead as a dead Ding's donger ". Probably 2 years + !!

    ( Now that right there is a polite Australianism for yas !!)

    As a tuning system it did work quite well , indeed I still use it ALL the time here in Perth Western Australia as for the last 8 years+ the local HD dealers were very good at "upselling" the package on most every new bike. Here in Australia it still works on the 2018 model year Harleys.

    I have in the past used "original SERT" Screamin' Eagle race tuner hardware and software ( does 2001 to 2008 only !), and I was a big fan of TTS, the "phoenix" from that original SERT. As far as I am aware only TTS allows the "saving" of the original "tune" in the ECM. I am sure a guru will correct me if I am wrong on that ( don't think I am !!)

    If the Supertuner pro dongle came with the bike then your stock OEM calibration is long gone anyways almost for definite , and the dongle will be "married" to the bike/VIN.

    If you have bought the Supertuner pro dongle brand new in the box well your bike may well be 100% ridgy didge factory stock

    So, just reflash with the appropriate calibration for your model year and bike. Probably 044AAO 003. You will NEED a laptop here for this I assume you know that ?

    Check the "reset adaptive fuel" on the way thru' the reflash and she will most likely be apples mate.

    For by far the majority of most folks a "canned MAP" is all you'll need. All that "wideband stuff" is not necessary ( In my humble opinion OK !)

  • jordan1200
    jordan1200
    5 years ago
    Quoting Retroman on 19 Dec 2018 05:23 AM

    Yowzah ! An old thread revitalised

    Well Jordan me old mate , in the USA , and Canada as well I presume , the Supertuner Pro is as " dead as a dead Ding's donger ". Probably 2 years + !!

    ( Now that right there is a polite Australianism for yas !!)

    As a tuning system it did work quite well , indeed I still use it ALL the time here in Perth Western Australia as for the last 8 years+ the local HD dealers were very good at "upselling" the package on most every new bike. Here in Australia it still works on the 2018 model year Harleys.

    I have in the past used "original SERT" Screamin' Eagle race tuner hardware and software ( does 2001 to 2008 only !), and I was a big fan of TTS, the "phoenix" from that original SERT. As far as I am aware only TTS allows the "saving" of the original "tune" in the ECM. I am sure a guru will correct me if I am wrong on that ( don't think I am !!)

    If the Supertuner pro dongle came with the bike then your stock OEM calibration is long gone anyways almost for definite , and the dongle will be "married" to the bike/VIN.

    If you have bought the Supertuner pro dongle brand new in the box well your bike may well be 100% ridgy didge factory stock

    So, just reflash with the appropriate calibration for your model year and bike. Probably 044AAO 003. You will NEED a laptop here for this I assume you know that ?

    Check the "reset adaptive fuel" on the way thru' the reflash and she will most likely be apples mate.

    For by far the majority of most folks a "canned MAP" is all you'll need. All that "wideband stuff" is not necessary ( In my humble opinion OK !)

    Hey thanks for the response. The bike is bone stock and so is the ECM. I got my hands on a SE Pro Tuner (orange that a guy unmarried). Unfortunately, my bike is still at the dealer as I couldn't put 2 bikes in the garage this winter. I will sell my other one in spring to make room. I am surprised that there would be no way to return to factory config once changed. What about doing a initial run with a log running and saving the log then using it to restore to?
    What does the "reset adaptive fuel" do exactly? 
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    5 years ago

    Yes indeed there is a guy , ( A "Polack" I believe !) who can "divorce" the Supertuner pro. Been on ebay for yonks he has. Well known here downunder, 100% kosher !

    And yes I was thinking you'd be smack bang into your shite winter by now ! No such grumbles here.

    Every Canuck I have ever met here in Ausralia who is resident I ask why ? Stock reply, "No minus 30 !!" ....

    resetting Adaptive fuel just resets any "bad habits" the bike may have picked up on it's travels..

    I now just check the box as a matter of course.

    Can you source and download the Supertuner pro software in Canadia ? ( I know I know just can't help myself haha..)

  • jordan1200
    jordan1200
    5 years ago
    Quoting Retroman on 19 Dec 2018 01:41 PM

    Yes indeed there is a guy , ( A "Polack" I believe !) who can "divorce" the Supertuner pro. Been on ebay for yonks he has. Well known here downunder, 100% kosher !

    And yes I was thinking you'd be smack bang into your shite winter by now ! No such grumbles here.

    Every Canuck I have ever met here in Ausralia who is resident I ask why ? Stock reply, "No minus 30 !!" ....

    resetting Adaptive fuel just resets any "bad habits" the bike may have picked up on it's travels..

    I now just check the box as a matter of course.

    Can you source and download the Supertuner pro software in Canadia ? ( I know I know just can't help myself haha..)

    Yes imagine that, we can now download it straight from the HD website. The wonders never stop up here in the great white north. 
    http://prosupertuner.harley-davidson.com/SuperTuner.aspx Last year we didn't even know what internet was.. lol 

    When you say resets "bad habits" what does it actually reset or clear? I am one of those guys that loves to know the boring technical dry stuff. Helps my overall understanding. Especially since there are some days that the lights are dimmer upstairs than others since my major concussion back in 2014.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    5 years ago

    Reason I asked re the Supertuner pro download availability is I do believe it is NLA in the USA !

    The EPA reamed HD for a cool 12 million $USD , so Harley dropped it quicker than a hot lunch in bear hungry season..

    My US contacts for tuning hence moved on/away from Supertuner pro almost 2 years ago now. They are all well kinky for Powervision. I AM NOT !

    Concussion ? Some kinda "Ice Hockey" mishap I presume ? Occupational hazard there methinks..

    Coupla years back the local Bottlo ( AKA Beershop !) had a super special on Moosehead. GREAT stuff , $20 Aussie for 24x 375ml bottles.

    Reason ? Apparently the labels had none of that Aussie "standard drink" bullshit , nor any od that USA "don't get up the farking swanee or operate machinery" crapola !

  • jordan1200
    jordan1200
    5 years ago
    Map 044AAG003 last updated 8/19/2014 Has options for fuel type. Up here in Canada our pumps say may contain up to 10% ethanol does that mean I would be best to select that option? It seems to increase fuel over the straight 14.6 option. I do like that it would be a bit richer....

  • jordan1200
    jordan1200
    5 years ago
    Quoting Retroman on 19 Dec 2018 02:18 PM

    Reason I asked re the Supertuner pro download availability is I do believe it is NLA in the USA !

    The EPA reamed HD for a cool 12 million $USD , so Harley dropped it quicker than a hot lunch in bear hungry season..

    My US contacts for tuning hence moved on/away from Supertuner pro almost 2 years ago now. They are all well kinky for Powervision. I AM NOT !

    Concussion ? Some kinda "Ice Hockey" mishap I presume ? Occupational hazard there methinks..

    Coupla years back the local Bottlo ( AKA Beershop !) had a super special on Moosehead. GREAT stuff , $20 Aussie for 24x 375ml bottles.

    Reason ? Apparently the labels had none of that Aussie "standard drink" bullshit , nor any od that USA "don't get up the farking swanee or operate machinery" crapola !

    Moosehead, never tried it. Now I have to. My concussion wasn't very glamorous like a sports injury. We had some ice storms and I was trying to be proactive and go to a hardware store and actually slipped in the stores driveway and went head over onto the back of my head. Never really been the same...
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