Can EPA force you to do roadside test?

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  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago

    Question... can the EPA (in victoria) force you to sit through the full roadside test if they are setup at a breath test?... Can u request to go in your own time locally?? Is there any reprocussions if you say you are in a hurry and refuse...given you will do it within a set time given? These people are not the police, do they have the right to detain you to do it??

    Cheers

  • dkNigs
    dkNigs
    10 years ago

    If the lights aren't blue and red I'm not pulling over.

  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago
    yea but they set up at booze busses so u are already pulled over...
  • AlHD48
    AlHD48
    10 years ago

    If they are there I guess you have no choice

    Is this common , which suburbs have you seen this ?

     

  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago
    Vic got me for 704 dollars first offence
  • AlHD48
    AlHD48
    10 years ago
    I guess to play it safe keep the stock pipes in , for a while ,

    There needs to be a better alternative where there are nice pipes but not too loud,

    I have seen 883 with Vance short shots and they are not loud , but still would get pinned
  • dkNigs
    dkNigs
    10 years ago
    Akrapovik's are German TUV approved, and seem to test pretty well all round.
  • SoftailSteve
    SoftailSteve
    10 years ago
    do not know about vic but in nsw .Wilfully delaying or obstructing authorised officers during the exercise of any of their powers
    is an offence under s 211(3) that is subject to a penalty of up to:
    • $1,000,000 for a corporation, with a further $120,000 for each day the offence continues
    for continuing offences
    • $250,000 for an individual, with a further $60,000 for each day the offence continues for
    continuing offences.
    epa has the power to arrest if you refuse to give them your name or they believe is incorrect
  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago

    There is this but it only says they have to GIVE YOU THE NOTICE to get tested within an hour, not that they can hold you.. section three it seems that you can say no to get tested another time

    A Authority may require vehicle or ship to be made available for testing

     

     

    S. 55A(1) amended by No. 10261 s. 26(a).

        (1)     The Authority may by notice in writing served upon any person being the registered owner of or apparently in lawful possession of any vehicle or ship require him to make the vehicle or ship available as required by the notice for the making of any inspection measurement or test by an authorized officer in order to determine whether the vehicle or ship complies with any provision of this Act.

    S. 55A(2) amended by Nos 9803 s. 8(a)–(c), 10092 s. 24(2)(b), 10261 s. 26(b).

        (2)     Any such notice shall state the time (being in the case of a new vehicle not less than seven days and in the case of any other vehicle or a ship not less than fourteen days after the time at which the notice is served) and the place (being, in the case of a vehicle other than a vehicle intended for sale as a new vehicle not more than 50 kilometres from the address at which the vehicle is registered in the case of a ship ordinarily kept afloat at some place, that place, and in the case of any other ship, not more than 50 kilometres from the place at which the ship is ordinarily kept travelling by a convenient route and using suitable means) at which the vehicle or ship is to be made available and the period (being, in the case of a vehicle intended for sale as a new vehicle, forty-eight hours, and in the case of any other vehicle one hour, and in the case of a ship, three hours) for which it is to be required.

    S. 55A(3) amended by Nos 10092 s. 24(2)(c), 87/1989 s. 10(k).

        (3)     The Authority may upon the request of the person upon whom the notice is served amend in writing the requirements of the notice as to the time or place at which the vehicle or ship is to be made available or the period for which it is to be required, but not so as to require anything to be done by the person without his consent which the notice might not have required originally.

    S. 55A(4) amended by Nos 9758 s. 10, 87/1989 s. 7(k), 86/1990 s. 5(h)(i), 49/2000 s. 3(15)(Sch. item (32)(a) (b)), 68/2009 s. 97(Sch. item 50.20).

        (4)     A person who contravenes any such notice shall be guilty of an offence against this Act and liable to a penalty of not more than 60 penalty units and to a daily penalty of not more than 15 penalty units for each day during which the offence continues after conviction or after service by the Authority or a protection agency on the accused of notice of contravention of the provisions of this section (whichever is the earlier).

    S. 55A(5) inserted by No. 87/1989 s. 43, amended by Nos 86/1990 s. 5(g), 49/2000 s. 3(15)(Sch. item (33)).

        (5)     If a person contravenes a notice under subsection (1) the vehicle or ship in respect of which the notice is served is prohibited from being used or sold on or after the time specified in the notice as the time that the vehicle or shipwas to be made available for inspection, measurement or test.

    Penalty:     60 penalty units.

    S. 55A(6) inserted by No. 87/1989 s. 43.

        (6)     Subsection (5) does not apply to or in relation to the use of the vehicle or ship in connection with the making of any repairs or the making available of the vehicle or ship for inspection, measurement or test.

    S. 55AB inserted by No. 10261 s. 27.

  • fatbat
    fatbat
    10 years ago

    1. They are authorised to make you do the test. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the vic legislation but in any event whilst police are there the EPA is effectively assisting police with a road worthy inspection anyway.

    2. The EPA cannot and will not physically stop you if you decide to leave or obstruct their test.

    3. The EPA cannot pull you over.

    4. As long as the EPA is in the company of police, police will assist them with any issue involving points (2) and (3). Which is why the EPA works alongside police or they couldn't actually do anything.

     

    There's no way around this which is why it's been done like this in every jurisdiction for as long as I know.  If you wanna test the law and refuse or obstruct, good luck.

  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago
    but the cops cant force u either.. they just send u...or is is just because they dont have the gear...
  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago
    even that though doesnt say it is within their powers to detain you for immediate testing...it just says you cant delay or obstruct them from using the powers they do have
  • CVO Deluxe
    CVO Deluxe
    10 years ago

    I've had some experience in this field in a previous life so just play the game.

    The minute you evade they'll get your rego number and the boys in blue will come knocking on your door.

    They'll then go through you like a case of salts and fuck you over whichever way.

    Its not worth the hassles. Play nice and theres a chance they'll go easy on you. My 2c.

     

  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago

    704 bucks says they dont play easy

  • speedzter
    speedzter
    10 years ago
    So what happens if you get a 2nd offence ?
  • careyman
    careyman
    10 years ago
    i think its like 1100 bucks and they can take the bike off the road
  • skirtster
    skirtster
    10 years ago
    I think it might be better if your bike wouldn't start for the test, but when you get it fixed you will get it tested
  • groover
    groover
    10 years ago
    In NSW the EPA set up with the cops when conducting noise testing. One of there favourite haunts is down near Woolloomooloo. The cops bring back cars and bikes from around the city for testing.
  • Wimbo
    Wimbo
    10 years ago
    These cunts are hired to keep the unemployed figures down.
    Fucking waste of Tax Payers money.
    They should go out to the Burbs on a Saturday morning and pull all the Lawn Mowers and Chain Saws over for testing.
    Assholes. This country has lost it.
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