Hi guys I have just bought a 2009 fatbob and I am thinking of installing a 106 or 107 kit, S&S or Revolution. Has anyone had either of these kits installed and to what success. I will look at some head work and cams and probably a set of LSR 2 into 1 pro pipes, heavy breather etc. Any thoughts or feedback would be great.
I did a heap of reading on USA forums and there were some issues with the revolution kits which may have been fixed by now.
The s&s 106/107 kits are very similar but have diff pistons. The 106 uses s&s branded pistons with a flat top and short skirt. The 107 piston is a cp dome top piston. If using oem head gaskets and not touching the heads the 106 kit sets compression at about 10 whilst the 107 is about 10.4:1. Important to know for choosing your cams unless doing head work and or changing head gasket size and then you can set your compression to whatever you like. When researching the s&s 106 kit some people were reporting issues with the pistons too.
The s&s kits are not necessarily ready to install out of the box as is claimed. Take the kit to a machine shop to check over and measure bores, piston rings etc
When searching forums and google on these kits search for problems with the kits.
Yes rings need to be gapped for sure, this was noted in the included instal instructions with my kit, are you saying it wasn't with yours Fatbat?
Thanks guys for the info, very helpfull, I will be doing some work myself but will be getting headwork and any maching done by someone else. I will also get him to check all crucial measurements like deck height, ring gap, comp ratio, etc. I want the bike to pull hard right through midrange to top end, but still ride good around town so I know cam selection will play a big part in that. Anyway thanks for the feedback.
Any of you guys who have had these kits fitted can you tell me what cams you used and if you had them dyno tuned what sort of HP and torque figures you are getting
If I'd used the 106 kit without headwork and oem thick head gaskets I'd have used the s&s 570 cams. Having compression releases opens up your cam options.
Thanks again this is the kind of info I am chasing, from guys who have done it already. The 100HP sounds really achievable for not a lot of coin so happy about that
Daggs I realise to some it might sound like a lot , but if you compare to buying a complete new engine and swapping everything over its not that bad, and I picked up the fatbob pretty cheap so I figure I can lash out a little. Could spend more if I could sell off a few bikes but the market is hard at the moment.
You can get to, or close to 100 hp without head work and throttlebody upgrade if you choose the right cam and have a good exhaust. But peak hp isn't the be all and end all for most street use. Torque in the midrange was my goal.
If you're on a budget there are some cheap cams on eBay in Australia right now. A pair of se211 cams which are similar but lower lift than the s&s585 and also a set of andrews 57h but these would be more suited to a cr of no more than 10:1.
Fatbat I have 211 cams in my 2006 superglide it has a 1550 kit and pipes and supertuner and it goes a lot harder than the 1584 fatbob, so good advice, thanks
Ok so after a lot of info chasing i ended up getting a set of 103 barrels and heads for bugger all. The heads are going off to get done and i will get the rest of the parts i need. Probably go with the easy start 585 cams, new hc pistons, the only thing i cant really decide on is the pipes. Most people i talk to are saying d&d fatcats but i really like the lsr propipe, has anyone used these or have any info
Finally my bike went in for surgery on monday heads came back ported and bigger valves and springs, got the s&s 585 cams and had the barrells bored to 106" 10.5 to 1 s&s pistons and picked up a set of vance and hines 2 into 1 pro pipes, hoping for some good figures, thanks to all for good advice