"Scorpions"
were they the gang in grease the movie???

Ha,  yea thats probably where Bleijie got his up to date intel from....looks like they were a car club too...

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/bp/long-lost--grease--car-is-back--for-sale-010941992.html   

Maybe the next appeal is not as far off as first thought..

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/bikies-plan-new-vlad-law-challenge-20141120-11qvca.html

 

Or a push for a Bill of Rights is an option..

http://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/news/high-court-s-anti-bikie-law-decision-prompts-calls

 

ive been to court over a charge that never happened but in the law people who act on behalf of the govenment or state ,can charge you with anything they se fit to lay upon you .i then have to get involved hire a lawyer at great exspense to prove i never or could even do mentally or phischally manufacture such items regarding alledged charges there was nothing so after 1 1/2 yrs of more time to get police brief or evidence whatever ,on court appearance day we all say hello to man at bench police person comes in says hello to me an my to barristers and hands some paper to prosecuter ,he approaches your worship at bench an announces charges have ben dropped as there is no evidence no investigation was even done ,but then police came in more paper an now another charge has been given ,its like hang on gotta get some money so i cop $300 fine an away we go all good now back to work an no conviction recorded thankyou your honour or worship ,but every form that you have to fill in will ask have you ever been charged with a criminal offence ,well to me thats like saying your guilty an got off even though the whole charge of doing said thing never actually happened ,ive been to court over other charges proved in court that lies were being told and no police version that was written had been lost and could only talk verbally about the event on court day ,magistrate said there is no case we have no version off event for prosecuter to question me solicitor asked questions i had written and not either officer could tell same story no corlaboration had been disscussed and they sank themselves into abyss and i proved in court through law person that oits a sham anyway magistrate said sorry gunna have to charge you guilty because i have to believe police and you have right to appeal in the supreme court you see powers to be have to stay on same side of fence judges arnt going to go against other judges decisions i found same thing with doctors they have to agree on on decisions of others in these situations and thats that they are the biggest gang and must be stalwart in these matters a judge once said to me ,its not a rite for you to have a licence its a privilidge and im taking that privilidge away from you ,ah i see u can blend in with the masses but step out and be noticed more an flaunt rules of certain criteria you will draw attention to oneself which im afraid to say it we cannot win that fight its just not allowed just an opinion about all this who ha just have to fly under the radar change become a apex club member or bowls club croquet sailing antique club so many clubs freemasons club surf club ,we are only people even though we as a mass have the biggest numbers ,but alas nobody will amalgamate and stand up against powers that are more scary they were guns and stuff pretty scary people our protect and serve pretty ruthless at times and that to me is a powerfull presence armed and beware and most people will avoid closeness and go another way now thats fear isnt it thats what i see ,its just another buisness that has to make money its all about the money SHINGLES

Crispin Hull former Editor of the Canberra Times, Barrister and author of the book 'The High Court' lends his weight to the growing concern surrounding legislative attacks on basic freedoms and rights in the aftermath of the High Courts latest ruling....

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/harsh-bikie-law-threatens-basic-legal-rights-and-freedoms-20141120-11q8p4.html 

 

From my reading of some of the High Court Challenge transcript (it's VERY long and I may be wrong), some of the HC seemed to think if you were charged under these laws, you just need to argue that your organisation was not a criminal organisation. Maybe this would be the time when the Government's "Declaration" that these 26 clubs are Criminal Organisations get's challenged in court. Proving this has been a problem in the past, so in QLD they just decided to "say it's so" on the word of "secret evidence". So, hypothetically, if somebody was charged as a "participant", and the prosecution was placed in the position where they had to "prove" the organisation was a criminal one (historically no easy feat), and were then un-successful, would that then be the precedent that struck that particular organisation (club) from the list permanently? Just a thought.

 

 

FIRST DAY 2 Sept HEARING TRANSCRIPT
Kuczborski v. The State of Queensland [2014] HCATrans 187 (3 September 2014)
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/HCATrans/2014/187.html

SECOND DAY 3 Sept HEARING TRANSCRIPT
Kuczborski v. The State of Queensland [2014] HCATrans 187
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/HCATrans/2014/188.html

Thats true Nado and may well end up being the only way left to fight these declarations if no further cases are determined by the High Court.
The authorities know how difficult it is to prove a 'whole' organisation is a criminal one. They would need massive amounts of electronic evidence
proving criminal collusion amongst ALL the members all the time. Its fair to say they knew that would be the stumbling block...mainly because in the
vast majority of cases its not happening. If it was that evidence would certainly be getting some airtime.
With the increased acceptance of 'secret evidence' its very hard for a club to defend itself from such allegations....how can you disprove a brief of
evidence against you when you cant see it..nor can your Lawyer. Authorities hide behind the so-called 'fact' its from undercover sources and any form of
disclosure to the club members would lead to that operative being outed ! What rubbish...if indeed there were undercovers in all these clubs then
any of them breaking laws would be getting scooped up instantly...no need for long and protracted declaration hullabaloo.
The Rico Act in America at least has some criteria attached to its accusations, from memory its something like the majority of the clubs membership
has to have 3 major indictable offences against their name over a fixed period (I think its 10 yrs) before proceedings can take place.
In Australia there is no such criteria...in fact Prof Terry Goldsworthy released an article late last year that showed almost all the clubs declared in Qld had
around the 50% mark,or just below it, of convicted members. And many of those convictions were for minor offences. Hardly the stuff of a 'criminals only'
group.
Interesting times ahead no doubt. If Labor make Govt in Qld and stick to their statements of royal commissions, reviews and what not around the VLAD
Laws there may be some watering down of the more draconian parts or if not then as you suggest they will just have to be taken on in the courts...expensively.