I have just replaced the Pirelli night dragons with Avon Cobra's, The Pirellis are nowhere near as good  as the Avons!

My bike is a 14 Fat Bob with stage iv kit fitted, and as we all know the Dunlop 427 isnt much chop once you have ridden them in the wet or have done a bit of work to your ride, so after a lot of researching i ended up buying the Pirelli Night Dragons,

Even though the Pirellis were better than the Dunlops in the wet and through the twistys they lacked grip when you powered on from a standing start! I was very disappointed in their launch grip, I also found them to be a bit unpredictable at times when up it into a fast corner 6k rpm click into second gear she stepped out quiet a few times unpredictably!

The Avons - Fuck me what a difference rode from Gold Coast Harley straight up to Springbrook to scrub them in. These tyres have so much more grip that when it was time to see how much wheel spin there would be off the mark i gave her a handful let go of the clutch she just hooked up wtf front wheel even lifts up I went with the 200/60/16 on the rear fuck what a difference clears everything no worries and looks horn, i thought i might have given away a little with the steering using the 200 but no it counter steers very nicely flips side to side just the same actually suits the Fat Bob better i think,this tyre has a much smoother feel to it and is very quiet out on the road, gas it up out of a corner and it just hooks up not one bit of slip i can get so much more power to the ground.

My rear pirelli was done at 6000k so will have to wait and see what i get out of the Avons so far i have only put 300 ks on them but regardless of when they expire i will be using these tyres again. 

cheers Boz 

Do you mind me asking what they cost you?  I'm about to change the tyres on my 2011 FatBob and was planning to do exactly what you have with the 200 on the rear.

Cheers, FatRob.

Thanks for the heads up on them tyres Bozza. About to run the Dunlop out so this has made my mind up. Mines a 2011 FXDF so there shouldn't be no drama using the 200 Avon ?? 

Cheers Kev

Great write up Bozza. I rode my 2014 Fat Bob still on stock tyres in the pissing down rain for the first time yesterday and it was not confidence inspiring to say the least. Can't justify binning still fresh tyres though. Must ride more??

just put a set of night dragons on fxr feels like a totally different bike totally satisfied allso put a new front tyre on the xr went with a pirelli angel gt must give a big wrap to gold coast motorcyle tyres at mermaid beach excellent service and price go and see them!!!

What size ya running on the front Bozza? I'd read a lot of the U.S. guys go 200 Avons on the bobs but run a 150 up front or something?

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I'm gonna keep it in mind Bozza. I got that other motor going in soon and will need a wee bit more traction. I still don't mind the Dragons as a direct comparison to the Dunlops(shit) and Metzelers (ok). As long as I don't take a backward step I'll be happy. I haven't got any vibration issues with the pirellis though??

No, the 124 R&R long motor should arrive in a fortnight. New pipes clutch compensator roller rockers HPI throttle body etc is all here waiting. Went with that because of the crank and gear drives,heads etc. Nothing over the top just reliable hp/tq combo.

Sorry Bozza I been running around up on the border for a few days. I'm running the 180 on the rear now and yeah it seems fine once warm. A bit slippery cold but in a predictable way, I don't mind that. I'm not sure I'll put the 124 in before xmas yet. Don't really want it off the road now this sun has finally shown up. Well for a few days anyway. Bloody Mexican weather.

Not wrong Bozza. The fatbob is still the go for a longer ride though. Must be getting old as I'm favouring comfort over performance. Sort of those two are chalk n cheese to ride. Horses for courses and all that.

the options for the FXDB Street Bob are more limited requiring a 160/70-17... I have had the Avon Storm 2 Ultra Radial Rear Tire, but have not done any serious riding since fitting. Still have Metz on the front and keen to get ride of that.

I also see now that Avon has the Storm 3D X-M to suit...

I have dragons an certainly alter fxdf 2 a really good grippy feel like sportsbike u can lean over at harsh angles and have confidence ,even spinning wile leant over still gives good feedback ok its sliding but in a controllable manner fantastic edge grip ,as far as wobbles go I fitted a steering damper ages ago wen used 2 wobble wen dunlops were on bike and that sorted problem damper made for fatbob cost 300+ but no mucking around put part on forks other part on frame then attach damper ten minute job then out 2 test damper on full bike flat out on hwy 200+ no wobbles straight as gunn barrel rock solid ,looks like flimsy piece of crap but what it does turns your bike into rock solid precision handling ,lot of talk about putting sputhe parts an this and that well u can but I went down other easier path read others reports in Europe about damper an that was what we had on our big sportbikes so was no brainer and yes was exspensive but did it work hell yeah never had wobble since even with bald as hell rear tyre still dead rock solid 200+ and eveh all lower speeds as well big sweeping bends even hitting big potholes at high speed an bike leaving ground an hit frame when came back down but just held line scared shit outa me was flyin when happened hurt my arse it was hardest bottoming out ever had ,wary of that spot now hard 2 see in dark wat actually is must be dip in hwy at bridge join ,just put new nite dragon on rear I abused 1st one heaps burnouts only few thousand k,s on tyre will go a bit easier on this 1 cost 304$ gold coast mermaid tyres 4 bikes SHINGLES

Ya still alive Shingles. Good to see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yep still here haddent ben on bike 4 ages ,ya get alll dese things an fuk do ya really need dis ,so hopped on an rode down 2 a place 1 often frequent lotta good open hwy dual lanes w`ide open keep eyes peeled watch an follow the quickest car mostly hovering 120+ so 1 use him as benchmark he seems not scared runnin even quicker now ah here comes my turn big long stretch k at least goin upwards oncomin cant seee ya here we go open tap in top an just let it rip till hit tunnell and bends dramaticly button off see wat cometh from behind all sweet now headin down rise good coupla k,s wait till go past rest area still 129+ back offf hav gander wait a little all ok seems goood next burst flat open hitin180+ back off amble along a bit fuk big long sweeper an then heads slitly inclining for couple k amble back as on ramp an of ramp wait till go past on ramp check if anythin swoopin 2 get on hwy nah all good full noise again ,if ya dont like noise best not ride diss cars move over b 4 i get 2 them now thats wat i call satety they may not see bike but there hearing it better 2 be heard first then seen upon hearing cycle ,i ride right hand hand lane mostly and maintain 120 min if get nabbed well thats way it is rode wif po bike him sittin behind 10k+ im doin 120+ eventually saw him comin rather quickly now wat happens o welll  moved over betweeen tin things fukin dangerous them fellas no 1 seein po bike an cars switchin lanes over there over here so i jus held my course look straight ahead ,he comes goes slowly past i never look at them jus maintain my ahead concentration now my bike will get ya attention people wind dere windows up nothin happens he jus keeps goin actually faster an being on bike he no,s top gear on bikes really need 120 2 b at a speed that top gear really needs min 2 not be jerky an engine not really happy ,cripes gotta ride in 5th all the time ,its not about speedin ,it,s about ergonomic,s of motor being happy ,ive owned heaps big sportbikes an its same thing 120 about min engine will feel harmonoius ,for got wat da heck am writtein about aw yeah dragons wanted 2 try avon man says no dragon heaps better its all jus opions but he sells both but insisted dragon better quality made is on bike did burout leavin shop jus 2 take shine off tyre greasy film its jus 2 easy 2 do bikes got that much power i looked at ya dyno results not bad then checked comparison against mine its all jus lines but inerresting ive got autometer tacho set at 5800 coz was hittin rev limiter wen doin big long burnouts so now can keep spinnin an still goin forward but off limiter stupid i know but thats y i had mods done wacked on dyno lines as it shows how motor is so easy to spin up tyre an hauls ass like ya have turbo or sumthin its really quite so different its like thats not my bike wat have u done 2 it for what its worth it was da best 5k ive ever spent noise i love it it makes me feel safe been follooed heaps only pulled over once an blew in breath tester all good man said an have a nice nite it was fukin 11.30pm i replied u have a nice night as well officer an he drove off he wasnt worried about any other shit an i dont worry about it either if ya gunna worry about noise an all other shit y bother buyin HD buy a yamy or sumthin all iread is dudes tryin 2 quietin pipes or this or that fuk ive been ridin bikes and had tons of run inns locked up dangerous driving u name it been phisically lifted off bike by po with gunns at head road blocks on hwy gunns pointed at head while riding along hit up da as by po car while ridin o da list ,an still ridin an not givin a fuk an ya no wat no tickest in 14 yrs an wont be a ticket be more like bracelets but i dont care 60 soon cant even walk acrosss road  as legs fuked gotta have walking stick an park real close 2 place no big walks 4 dis kid ah da joy an pain of it all dat last prang fuked me good im rooted so iguess bike is my final fling of fun stupid my mrs goes yep she,s probably right an i even question myself will i sell it or wat dunno yet ah had it now bye SHINGLES

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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