Thorough review of the Livewire

4/5
  • RossW
    RossW
    5 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 13 Aug 2014 01:13 AM

    Yes as much as i resist it, it is the way of the future.

    The price is pretty shocking. I think they're charging too much.
  • steelo
    steelo
    5 years ago
    It’s a hard cell. I agree. Last in a long series. 
  • JFE
    JFE
    5 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 09:49 AM

    Is that current news Jaffee?

    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.
    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 09:49 AM

    Is that current news Jaffee?

    Quoting JFE on 17 Oct 2019 07:20 AMedited: 17 Oct 2019 07:27 AM

    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.

    The way electricity prices are going it will cost more to charge it to run less than filling the bike
  • JFE
    JFE
    5 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 09:49 AM

    Is that current news Jaffee?

    Quoting JFE on 17 Oct 2019 07:20 AMedited: 17 Oct 2019 07:27 AM

    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.

    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Oct 2019 09:52 AM

    The way electricity prices are going it will cost more to charge it to run less than filling the bike

    Everything going up PB. I swear a proportion of the population wants us back living in caves!
    I think EV bikes have a place ... but this one to pricey for me, for what it is.

    Enjoy internal combustion while you can.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting JFE on 17 Oct 2019 07:20 AMedited: 17 Oct 2019 07:27 AM

    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.

    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Oct 2019 09:52 AM

    The way electricity prices are going it will cost more to charge it to run less than filling the bike

    Quoting JFE on 18 Oct 2019 08:20 AM

    Everything going up PB. I swear a proportion of the population wants us back living in caves!

    I think EV bikes have a place ... but this one to pricey for me, for what it is.

    Enjoy internal combustion while you can.

    Have to agree you aint seeing my 40k going on one of these
  • Ferrett62
    Ferrett62
    5 years ago
    Just read production and delivery has started again, they say the fault was limited to a single unit and owners can charge them normally. 
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    5 years ago

    Well just 2 weeks ago I saw my first Livewire in the metal and SAT ON IT AND RODE IT !

    Not in Australia , but in the West of Scotland while visiting my old mother.

    It was "static" on a rolling road , at a West Coast HD display tent at the Scottish boat show.

    ( Porsche/Audi etc etc blah blah all had their shit there too !)

    Bike in question had a Km/H speedo readout , the sales girl was quite at length to point that out.

    You had to accelerate in a certain manner due to the inadiquacies of the rolling road I presume.

    You could feel the "engine braking" as it "recharged" on decel.

    The bike was not "registered" and was I presume Euro spec ( the Km/H speed readout !)

    It was and had been touring the European dealers.

    30,000 pounds sterling ( close to $60,000 Aussie dollars !!) the male salesman reckoned. ( No fucking way !)

    The dolly bird biker sales bird also took some video of me on my phone , but I can't get video to the forum.

    It is QUIET , the rolling road was making all the racket and vibration. It was sitting on a bed of gravel in what was otherwise a boatyard at a rivermouth.



  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    5 years ago
    Well just thought I would mention, they cost nothing to run right now in NSW. as NRMA EV recharge stations are free to use. but if it gets popular they will start charging $ to charge em up. but NRMA have the recharging all down the coast & probably up the coast and inland too.
  • JFE
    JFE
    5 years ago
    ...if the bike was circa $20g the NRMA stations would help make it a bargain! 
    I don’t want to hijack the thread on another issue but I’d rather NRMA come up with some decent road safety initiatives for the $10m plus they spent on charging stations for a minority of members and others.

    How about some NRMA sponsored driver reviver vans on public and school holidays?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    7 days ago
    Some interesting reading from HD about their Livewire products....they sold just 33 bikes in USA for the first quarter of 2025 for their  $315million total investment in EV bikes...oopsie.
  • flstc08
    flstc08
    7 days ago
    G'day,
    I didn't realise they were still making them. I'd prefer one of those postie trikes, for shopping.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    7 days ago
    Quoting flstc08 on 31 May 2025 07:44 AM

    G'day,

    I didn't realise they were still making them. I'd prefer one of those postie trikes, for shopping.

    The point is the investors wish they didnt....hard to make $1 when its costing $100 to make something.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    6 days ago
    As predicted "back in the day" they sold very poorly AND depreciated like a fucking stone.

    That and I have NEVER seen one "on the road" here in Perth WA.

    I certainly didn't hear one either haha...

    For what it's worth a TESLA drops 41% IN A YEAR, these would have to be similar I would have thought ??
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    5 days ago
    To add, the only one I have seen for sale 2nd hand here was in an auction house as a "damaged repairable"..

    You would need BIG cojones to take that project on I would reckon ??


  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    4 days ago
    Quoting Retroman on 01 Jun 2025 08:43 AMedited: 01 Jun 2025 08:45 AM

    As predicted "back in the day" they sold very poorly AND depreciated like a fucking stone.


    That and I have NEVER seen one "on the road" here in Perth WA.

    I certainly didn't hear one either haha...

    For what it's worth a TESLA drops 41% IN A YEAR, these would have to be similar I would have thought ??

    A lot of the Tesla loss was more likely due to Musk and his antics in the US, but stuff the battery operated shit I like burning oil lol
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 days ago
    agree.... We are going new solar and batteries and while I really wanted the Tesla Powerwall 3 - Musk being a total fuck-wit just put me off the brand full stop - fucked ig i am going to support that yank twat!.  Going Sigenergy now.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 days ago
    Quoting tussuck on 03 Jun 2025 08:13 AMedited: 03 Jun 2025 08:14 AM

    agree.... We are going new solar and batteries and while I really wanted the Tesla Powerwall 3 - Musk being a total fuck-wit just put me off the brand full stop - fucked ig i am going to support that yank twat!.  Going Sigenergy now.

    Do you have a EV tussuck
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    4 days ago
    hell no.... petrol here and now too old to bother with an EV
  • Stuart
    Stuart
    3 days ago
    I saw a Jay Leno video review of the Livewire a few years ago. With bags of torque all over the place and silence as it went, for a few minutes I was thinking "fuck - that would be some fun". That quickly passed - not sure it would be $40+K of fun. I'll stick with my noisy petrol burners :-)
4/5