Just fitted v & h big shots , s&s stealth a/c to my 2013 103 FXDF 

tts on board and downloaded closest map

now having trouble with v tuning. 

Can I use the flight recorder only to collect data and then make a tune from that

ps have blue dongle 

cheers for input

bb

I haven't used the flight recorder side of my TTS but I believe you set everything up for the v-tune and then use the flight recorder to record your runs and then plug into your computor,download the data and proceed as normal...The benifit is that you don't need to carry your computor on the bike to record you v-tune data...

I always thought lugging around a laptop was the downside of vtuning. I've had the blue tts interface all along and this is the first I've heard about the flight recorder function!

Hilly

sounds so easy when you say it like that..

will give flight recorder a shot this weekend. 

See if I can f##k that up. 

Bb

So some progress. 

Loaded library map onto bike 

opened flight recorder. Selected standard not advanced. Fitted dongle to bike and off I went. 

10 min ride to bunnings and back ( any excuse for a ride even tho raining and 9deg) 

downloaded 2 files from dongle to computer.generated  tune by using library 01 map and combining 2new files as per vtune. 

New tune has no change from library01 all boxes exactly same numbers. 

Question is  did I not ride long enough or did I f##k something up in the process. 

Do I need to post up both maps for info

cheers in advance

It also comes down to your riding. You need to hold a steady throttle opening for a good few seconds then do the same for many throttle openings throughout the rev range and throughout all the gears. Takes a bit of time and some very deliberate riding patterns

Guys am using DAB358-01 as my starting tune is for A/C 2:1 no cat supertrapp. Was the closest one I thought.

no Hilly I did not set up the library one as I didn't know if I should change all cells to 1.00 as is lambda so I don't set afr to 14.6. Do I have to reset the cells first before creating tune. 

Just did 2 hrs on the bike and 8 seperate files. Created tune and no change so must have f##ked something up. 

Also do I have to do the cam selector if standard cam? 

Cheers guys. 

Its a learning curve and if I can get it to work then anyone can. 

Ps fllightrecorder sooooo much better than laptop in backpack hehe

thanks for all the help and input guys

Ok 

so I read those pages and think I get it

Opened library file. Changed settings upto and including 90 kPa to 0.981.

95 kPa would not go higher than0.940 and did not touch 100 kPa

table selection adjusted PE to 10000

now can I make a cal using data collected today or do I have to flash this cal to bike first then collect new data after that?

cheers for your patience Hilly

owe ya a couple of frothies for the advice

Thanks Hilly

will do the cam selector then start again

ok hopefully the pics come up ok

update on where  am at for other dummies out there and maybe some feedback from the ons in the knoiw

followed Hillys advice and read then re read then re read again select pages of the manual.

Did the cam selector as described and set new cam details to open 5 close 3

flashed to bike then went for ride  idled ok but heaps of decel popping that was not there in cal dab35801ao

so reset cam to as per selector open 4 close 3

selected base cal =DAB358-01-A0

set main lambda values under 100kpa to .981

set pe to 10000

saved then flshed to bike

then set up as if vtuning with computer and let bie come upto temp and idled to see if collecting data correctly ( see pic 3 )

took a while for o2 sensors to line up but appears to be getting data ok

closed that and opened flightrecorder

followed docs simple set up instructions as posted earlier some where on these forums

plugged dongle in and away i went

up and down a few hills. plenty of throttle holds etc.

30mins later am blending tts cal with my data (see pic 2)

blended data and created new tune. (see pic 3 )

my questions are is this ok data?

if I flash this tune to the bike will it be better than stock cal 358......?

can i leave it at that or should i continue wih runs to improve as there is pleny left in the bike?

If this is enough for now do I just flash it to bike and leave it at that . no moresteps or do i have to change settings backj ?

ps. after setting cams back vertually no decel popping at all

sorry bout million questions but tts is really not as simple for non mechanics but now i have it want to make sure the bike is running ok before heat of summer hits and i hink once you get it right a few times the possibilities are many

cheers for any replies

bb

THANKS SOOOO MUCH Hilly. 

Without your advice I would have chucked this thing and gone screaming budgy at the dealer. 

Will try it  as you said to set IVO to what tts wants and keep going with tunes to reduce popping. 

There is not enough detail in the manual for the flightrecorder or I am just missing it. 

Should have a section on setup all the way through to complete tune .

anyway thanks to you I am still progressing. 

Cheers again 

Thanks Hilly 

thats exactly what I did this arvo.

changed the IVO as per selector back to 5 open 3 closed

flashed the blended cam selected tune to bike. 

Went for a quick scoot and decel popping reduced dramatically.  Still there but much reduced

will keep doing tuning runs to get the harder sections then tackle the what comes next after more reading. 

Pat least it makes me ride more. Love the bob. 

Do you use tablet with dongle only ? Or have computer on s&s well?

Do you use the dyno feature as a reference for any gains made ? 

Cheers 

bb

Thanks for that Hilly

Have read that somewhere before on a USA forum. Have searched for help on the internet and many US stuff comes up. I think the process is starting to sink in now. Have made a couple of successful vtune runs now and updated the ecu with them. Still a long way off knowing what a retarded knock is and if I have one what to do about it ( insert sarcastic laugh here )but so far the bike is running quite well and I don't notice any pinging noises ,marbles rolling noises or knocking noises so I think ( hope ) that I am just fine tuning ,and because the bike is relatively stock tts does get me very close with its standard start tune. 

Having said all that I still want to learn more and will continue to follow forum discussions and read then re read all I can.  I like building/fixing buildings so it's in my blood to work out how stuff works. It is just a lot easier to work out construction than mechanical. 

Cheers again. 

If you ever visit South Australia the beer or bourbon is on me. 

Theres a small amount of KR in the pic below , have zoomed in on where it is in the graph.

Thanks Arron

Now I know what to look for will keep an eye on future v tunes. If I get any then will be back here I'm sure to ask how to fix it. 

Cheers again

First pic is TTS tune DAB358 etcetc

second is final cal as set back to original

Third pic is last vtune

last pic is a data collection run after final cal flashed to bike

Hi guys

couple of queries for any TTS tuners.out there.

I startd with DAB358 as my starting TTS tune. flshed it to bike. ran really well with this tune even though the pipes are different.Started vtuning and did a few runs 5 or 6 @30 mins or so.

Was happy enough but didnt notice any seat of the pants improvement.Then today i reset final cal afr to original and PE to original as per instructions then flashed to bike.

Started her up and thought was a little tinny sounding. Rode OK but to be honest i think the original DAB358 cal rode better by very small margin.Is this possible.I notice the values in the cells are very similar. Also how is it we reset all the values to original doesnt that render the tuning part invalid and a waste?

Each time you blend a new tune isnt it supposed to be minor improvement and a bit closer to perfect AFR for that cell. if so why reset all back to original?

Dumb builder trying to make sense of mechanics. gotta be a great laugh for those that are fluent in this.

cheers

bb