Some advice please, best oil for a chaincase oil change on 2000 ftstf ? Cheers
What's ya friends name , ando
Nulon full synthetic 10 W 60, with 50 mils of Nulon E20 added.
Interesting, teflon snake oil huh ?
With all due respect speedzter, me thinks you may not know a lot about what goes into any base lubricants that give them their properties,
and you have most probably never tried E20 in anything ?
but just for peace of mind,
Quote: < Due to the unique formulation of Nulon E20 it is quite safe to use in four-stroke motorcycle engines that incorporate a wet clutch.>
< Application Rates
Car & Truck engines - 1 bottle per 6 litres of engine oil. 4 Stroke motorcycles - Add 50ml per litre of oil (Safe for wet clutches) >
Source; http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Engine_Treatments/E20_Engine_Treatment/#.U8vMe-OSzg0
For what it's worth, myself and others that I know of that use E20 do not experience any clutch failure,
and we all seem to have never had a compensator or primary chain failure or wear problem either.
We don't exactly ride like grannies either, in fact, a couple of those that use E20 do quite well on the drag strip with excellent 60 foot times !
By all means question the snake oil additive theories and scenarios, but do your research well and ask those that have experience in such matters and you'll come up with an educated decission.
I won't get the topic off track, I will just ask you to think about the clever marketing. If nulon manufacture quality oil, why do they expect you to buy an extra additive to make it perform . It would only cost them a few cents to include it in the first place. But if you believe the marketing, that is your totally your choice.
Know what you mean speedzter, I normally refreain from getting involed with the OIL topics because there are so many people with different levels of knowledge and experience. But when Cliffoj asked for advice I thought I'd simply chime in with my choice/advice based on experience.
Clever marketing is a part of all products and is in fact useful as a part of the research done to determine that products authentisity/viability.
Take your choice of primary case oil for example.
Quote;
< Honda set the standard for motorcycle oil when it introduced GN4 way back in 1975.
We selected the highest-quality base stocks and created an additive package specifically designed for the unique requirements of motorcycle and ATV engines.>
source; http://www.hondacatalogue.com.au/products/Honda-GN4-1-Litre.html
Even Honda uses additive packages to acheive their standards with lubricants.
No surprise, all base lubricants contain additives to give them the properties best suited for the application they are designed for.
As far as lubricants go, one is completely left to their own choice at the end of the day based on the information available, or trying it themselves to evaluate the results.
Modifying your own additive package is not out of the question when it comes to trying to acheive something a little better than is on the market for those happy with the average norm , or something that "will do the job"
I guess it's a bit like, a horse will survive on charf and water,,, but if you want to put him on the race track you'll probably want to modify his diet so he'll be able to perform just that little bit better,,,, and still be alive at the end of the race.
My advice was offered to Cliffoj after he asked for it, and was based on my research and experience with a specific application, and results that I beleive to be the best acheivable.
My replies have been to justify my advice, and in response after it being questioned and referred to as " Teflon snake oil additive".
Rider, No need to justify yourself.
Oil is a bit of a pet topic of mine. Good discussion, but I will let it lay, as we know these things get out of hand.
