Bike valuation required

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  • 92Fatboy
    92Fatboy
    11 years ago

    Stock 08 Dyna FB with 60,000km in VG condition , rego , books. 

    I recently went to trade in on a used electra glide advertised at 25k , dealer offered me $12k surprise   ... i said no deal and will consider selling privately . Does 12k sound fair or unreasonable ? I wanted 17.5k trade but maybe i'm being too optomistic. What do you guys think it's worth. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • 92Fatboy
    92Fatboy
    11 years ago
    Thanks Allde , according to link 12k is a bit low , cheers
  • Tim S.G.
    Tim S.G.
    11 years ago

    $12k is , unfortunately , both unreasonable and current market trade price . You may be able to sell privately for more . $17.5 is high end price , with so many low mileage imports that have flooded the market .

  • beagle
    beagle
    11 years ago
    I was offered just over $15 for a 2012 FXDC in as new nick with extras and 15K's on the clock by HD dealers, when they are selling for around $18 - 18.5K Was offered closer to $17K by non harley dealers on other brands. I doubt I'll ever get another HD . I've had nine in the past 20 years, but ya get tired of being ripped off. It's all bullshit.
  • bobby bob
    bobby bob
    11 years ago
    this is why I got rid of my late model softail 3 years ago at a good price and got an import for half the price.
  • perthhog
    perthhog
    11 years ago
    this is why I wont be selling my bikes just keep them than maybe pass them on or keep them as a dust collection the ass has fallen out of the market
  • Rains
    Rains
    11 years ago

    The Australian secondhand Harley market used to be a weird one, immune to all the usual market forces, with bikes that cost $30k new selling for $25k 5 years/50,000kms later and for $20k 10 years/100,000kms later! If you take any other mass-produced consumer item, they all depreciate heavily - Falcon, Commodore, Toyota, Jap bikes etc - the more costly an item, the more it depreciates (S class Mercs will drop from $250k to $125k in 3 years).

    Now, Harleys also depreciate more realistically, but they still hold their value much better than the Japanese bikes. DIRECT imports (since all Harleys in Oz are imports) are the heroes or the villains depending on your point of view. I, for one, can't wait to see the direct import restrictions on cars being lifted (post the sad demise of our car manufacturing, there is no need to protect anyone, least of all the multinational car company importers who brazenly mark up cars here at 2 to 3 x their US / UK prices).

  • oneup
    oneup
    11 years ago

    HD Australia, and the dealers, have been way to greedy for way to long. as a horrid example, those trikes sold recently across Australia retailed at $56,000 or $57,000 depending on which state. the same trike in the USA retailed at $32,000 and at that time the two dollars were close enough that exchange rate doesnt need to be factored in. Shipping, taxes and ADR would add approximately $7000. so with the same mark up as US dealers the price should be $39,000. BUT with those retail prices, thats $17,000 profit over and above the US sales profit on one bike.
    So next time your dealer has a party and you feel good about getting a free sausage, just remember you may have payed for the sausage, and the BBQ and a couple of sportys too.

  • Wimbo
    Wimbo
    11 years ago
    Cant believe how many late Model Harleys are Fucked if you have to trade them in every couple of years.
    Got more money then me, that's for sure.
  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    11 years ago
    so the price of a second hand Harley has gone down has it? aint that a shame.
  • Aunty X
    Aunty X
    11 years ago
    12-14k is about right. The purchaser has to pay stamp duty on top of that.
  • wayne.craft
    wayne.craft
    11 years ago
    No mention of the shops who pumped thousands of dollars into the industry
    and then done there ass with the introduction of Free Trade with USA.....
    Yes they are all imported and as far as I can tell the extra cost here is all Government Taxes.
    We put a lot of time , effort and training into this industry only to have it ripped from under us
    with cheap imports. RAWS & ICV are a fucken joke and a waste of money.....
    Just my opinion guys....
  • Rocky2010
    Rocky2010
    11 years ago

    Keep the bike and purchase another, nothing like have many bikes to ride :-)

  • mick44
    mick44
    11 years ago

    Whilst I am a supporter of a pro rata style protectionist policy, I will say this.

    Whilst those who have invested in bike shops, training, ect. Many are now subject to non-protectionist market forces.

    They cannot really complain.

    Why, Most people supported service stations when they stopped being service stations with the attatched mechanics shop that actualy gave auto service. like actualy checking the oil at the pump and topping up engines particularly for woman and those less merchanicaly minded. The service stations got rid of the driveway service and mechanics shop and turned themselves into conveinience stores. Did anyone really care about the family owned local corner store and support them any longer, Absolutly not.

    Do bike shop owners seek out an Aussie owned servo to buy fuel or do they ever buy, say BP, a non-aussie owned servo whos also operating as a convenience store, You get the picture. 

    Do all the Dealers owners buy only Australian made produce in the supermarkets where possible, or support there local corner store or only support Australian owned stores, I think not. In fact, overseas companies are entering the Australian market at an increasing rate, such as Cosco, so do those bike shop owners only shop in Australian owned supermarkets, shops ect, Absolutely not.

    How many dealers buy at least an Australian assembled car, for there buisness. Yes some may, but not many.

    This analagy is simplistic but true for most buisness owners on any product.

    But if your quiet happy to buy cheaper oranges that were grown in the US and not buy the Aussie oranges cause there 50 cents a kilo dearer, You cant realy complain.

    So a young lass who lost her job in the corner store because people supported foreign owned servos that provide zero service is an example of why no buisness owner can complain about free trade / free enterprise.

    So the goose and the ganders wheel turns..

  • oneup
    oneup
    11 years ago

    top effort mick. good answer

  • allde
    allde
    11 years ago
    Have to agree with Mick, if you won't look after your own backyard first, why complain.
    Besides Business is now Global, why would you purchase say a pair of runners here for $240.00 (made overseas) when you can pay $120 from overseas with free postage, mind you these runners probably cost $10.00 to make in some third world country.
    We lost our Footwear Industry years ago no protection from our governments.

    These people that complain about cheap Grey imports lowering their bikes value, are they really complaining about their bikes value or is it the person that managed to do a better deal?
  • Sparra
    Sparra
    10 years ago

    So whats next???

  • FLHuTChU
    FLHuTChU
    10 years ago
    Please excuse my ignorance 92, but why did you sell your fat bob. If you don't have the money yet for an upgrade/newer bike, you would have been better keeping the dyna so at least you can still ride and save on the way. Just my opinion of course not meaning to offend ya.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    10 years ago
    Mate of mine today bought a 2007 Black pearl Fatboy with V&H 2:1 and a race tuner.

    Came with ALL the stock OEM stuff. Sold new in Perth by Frasers in late 2006 to it's first and only owner.

    Had cost him $32K plus the V&H pipes and the SERT tuner dongle ( another $2K back then no doubt !)

    Bike had sat as a lounge ornament ever since then , 1000 K's ( yes ONE THOUSAND !)

    My mate rode the bike away for $18,000 this arvo !! Not far off HALF the original buying price

    That's a sign of the times , and the bike had been for sale locally for the last few months , slowly dropping in asking price.

    Such has been the effect of the import deluge AND a wee cooling of the WA " boom" market
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