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Sputhe positrac

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  • chriso
    chriso
    6 years ago
    Mark the sputhe will do everything you need it to do mate and you will be very happy.
    All the nsw crew we ride with are running them and no one can speak highly enough of em, specially me.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Thanks chriso, that's a good (group) endorsement. Dunno how old Allan sputhe is but thought I'd get onto ordering it whilst he was still making these and he was pretty good on the emails. 
    Im gonna try and hold off buying further mods given the bike is still stored with Leigh and I won't be around to ride it for a while. But I've got a list of planned stuff!

    Hope your big month of riding went well 
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    From the research I did here and on Yankee forums, it sounds as though your symptoms are likely what is resolved mostly by the addition of the rear stabiliser. 
    Preventing lateral engine movement during hard or fast cornering is the problem intended to be resolved. But it's even reported to make high speed riding in straight stuff a lot more stable, and when passing trucks, strong cross winds etc 

    After paypal fees and their exchange rate it cost me $608 aud shipped. 
  • SRV72
    SRV72
    6 years ago
    Thanks mate. Sounds like it might be worth the money instead of other fancy bits and pieces that do nothing but cosmetic improvements.
  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    This post is back from the dead!! 
    I fitted the sputhe to mine just to see what all the who har was about. I never really noticed much difference with it on.. BUT.. I had already spent a lot of time setting up my bike and doing a lot of fine tuning as it was way out from the factory, which I found out while measuring when fitting my wider wheel/tyre set up
  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    I doubt you have wasted money mate, most people see big improvements and even though I didn’t I still believe it’s a great product and support the theory of it. I just didn’t notice heaps of difference but like I said I spent a fair bit of time on alignment and set up previously 
  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    “Feels like it’s on rails” I admit must have been a bit of an over-reaction, I guess all I’m saying is that 3 years on the bike handles fine but still not exceptional (at high speed). Probably pretty good for a harley though
  • chriso
    chriso
    6 years ago
    I don’t think your first post was an over reaction at all Daggs... they DO make that much diffrence.
    I think you have just gotten used to em and forget how bad it was without them.
    As speedster said, pull em off and you will know bout it lol
  • SRV72
    SRV72
    6 years ago
    What is the issue with fitting them? Is there any instruction that comes with them or any hints you blokes can suggest who have already fitted them? Ive got a general mechanical ability and will tackle it myself but if it can be fucked up or paint scratched it'll happen. lol Cheers Dan
  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    Just very fiddley to fit. A decent lift or table would be a big help, even better if you plan the fitting of this around a tyre change that would be the go, easier with the rear wheel out. I used bolts a size down, in the opposite way, to temporarily hold the whole assembly in place and then pushed the correct bolts in the correct way, which pushed the temp smaller bolts out
  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    Just very fiddley to fit. A decent lift or table would be a big help, even better if you plan the fitting of this around a tyre change that would be the go, easier with the rear wheel out. I used bolts a size down, in the opposite way, to temporarily hold the whole assembly in place and then pushed the correct bolts in the correct way, which pushed the temp smaller bolts out
  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    Wouldn’t tackle it without beer mate ha ha
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    There are YouTube videos re installation for both sputhe and true track which are pretty similar.  Like Daggs says, appears easier with rear wheel off. Sounds like an extra pair of hands will help to hold it in place whilst the first pair of hands bolts it on. Daggs'  idea sounds clever for one pair of hands. 
  • robots
    robots
    6 years ago

    You want bike straight as possible, lift no good get in way


    need jack to support motor/gearbox as you do each


    your front bolts will probably be reused


    will help on fxdwg, but not much in twisty with the rake and wheelbase

  • SRV72
    SRV72
    6 years ago
    Well I fitted the Sputhe Positrac to my FXDWG yesterday. The front was straight forward but the rear gave me hell. I had my 13 year old son helping who kept saying "why don't you just take it to the dealer and get them to do it"? I started to think he was right after a while LOL but the job is done now. Took me at least half a day I reckon.
    Went for a quick test through the hills this morning and I can notice an improvement but probably not $600 worth. The bike feels more stable at both lower and higher speeds but I still have some of that Dyna wobble when cornering aggressively. I guess it is what it is....... a FXDWG not a Ducati etc........
    Today I rode solo, most of my riding is 2 up with the bride on the back so it will be interesting to see how it feels with the extra weight of a pillion on the back.
  • DJP_120ci
    DJP_120ci
    3 years ago
    Old thread I know, but figured I’d comment here instead of starting a new one. 

    I have recently installed the sputhe, front and rear. The only way I can describe the changes is everything is so much “tighter” the bike feels more planted, and seems to turn in a touch earlier while holding its line much better. 

    Now the question I have for everyone else that has installed one, did your bikes seem to vibrate some more. 
    Mine has an annoying vibration coming through the foot pegs and once RPM drops I get a slow thud through the pegs. 

    Cheers 
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    3 years ago
    Quoting DJP_120ci on 16 Feb 2021 11:40 PM

    Old thread I know, but figured I’d comment here instead of starting a new one. 


    I have recently installed the sputhe, front and rear. The only way I can describe the changes is everything is so much “tighter” the bike feels more planted, and seems to turn in a touch earlier while holding its line much better. 

    Now the question I have for everyone else that has installed one, did your bikes seem to vibrate some more. 
    Mine has an annoying vibration coming through the foot pegs and once RPM drops I get a slow thud through the pegs. 

    Cheers 

    They help a lot!
    That's a problem you have to expect, when you mount a motor& gearbox on rubber mounts, to isolate vibration. the stock stabilisers , stop side to side movement, but not forward to rear movement. but they are isolating vibration with rubber mounting.
    you could remove the front Sputhe & just run the rear one see if vibration isolation improves.
    I broke a rear engine mount on a Dyna once @ high speed on a race track ( frightened the life out of me!! ) I managed to keep the bike on two wheels & stop it. ( when you break a rear engine mount, you need to keep throttle wide open & use your rear brake at same time. to stop the wobble ) after that happened a friend made the rear mount solid with just rubber mounted front. worked fine and did not notice vibration . I was reving that motor to 7,200  in speed traps at drags ( only a 95" ). good luck.
  • leachy
    leachy
    3 years ago
    I Have only fitted a Sputhe to the front of my Dyna Low Rider, but at the same time installed Legend Cartridges so it was night and day between what was there. I still cant believe how good a con job Harley do on us to convince us to buy such crap at such a high price.

    Anyway it seemed to change the vibration frequency for me and moved the point in the RPM up a little. The bike now handles really well, not as good as my VFR but OK to keep up with most average riders on a "sports" bike. Ill think about doing the rear when the time comes but I would recommend the fitting, I guess its a bit like the diminishing returns thing. Squeezing the last best 20% out of something takes 80% of the cost.   
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    3 years ago
    Quoting leachy on 02 Mar 2021 10:26 PM

    I Have only fitted a Sputhe to the front of my Dyna Low Rider, but at the same time installed Legend Cartridges so it was night and day between what was there. I still cant believe how good a con job Harley do on us to convince us to buy such crap at such a high price.


    Anyway it seemed to change the vibration frequency for me and moved the point in the RPM up a little. The bike now handles really well, not as good as my VFR but OK to keep up with most average riders on a "sports" bike. Ill think about doing the rear when the time comes but I would recommend the fitting, I guess its a bit like the diminishing returns thing. Squeezing the last best 20% out of something takes 80% of the cost.   

    leachy, I think the rear would be good as hold swing arm & rear wheel true.
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