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mecanic disconected my voes and lowered rpm when getting timed. evo

  • Camy18
    Camy18
    11 years ago

    i have a 1996 dyna wide glide, ev 27 cam yost powertube in carb.

    i have had that many people change my timing thinking they new best so i took it in to the bike shop to get retimed.

    my rpm was sitting around 1000 and beautiful and when being timed he lowered the rpm and diconected my voes. now i have no idea what that means but is it good bad pros and cons, it feels different but dont know what to think. i dont like the feel of my rpm lowered makes me feel like it will cut out. but it would probably bee around 800 900 i guess just by ear.

    just wanting as many opinions as possible

  • Crowy
    Crowy
    11 years ago
    Voes explained
    What is the Vacuum Operated Electrical Switch (VOES)? What does it do and why is it there?

    All Harley Davidson motorcycle carbureted models since the 1984 model year have used the VOES to improve throttle response, increase MPG, and meet EPA requirements for emissions.

    The VOES is a motorcycle part described as a vacuum ignition retard device. That is, under low vacuum conditions the switch is open and has no effect on ignition timing. Under high vacuum, the switch closes and advances ignition timing. Essentially, the VOES is like the vacuum advance in older type automotive distributors.

    The VOES is a normally open vacuum operated switch that closes under 3-5" of vacuum. The switch is connected to a lead from the ignition module. Under high vacuum, 3-5 inches or higher, the switch closes. A lead from the switch to ground closes a circuit in the ignition module. This circuit advances the timing of the spark. The advance increases throttle response and decrease fuel consumption and emissions.

    The vacuum hose is usually connected to a port on the carburetor or intake manifold depending on motorcycle year and carburetor. There are several different VOES switches used the mounting bracket style and operating vacuum being the main differences. The FLHT models have a different vacuum range than the other models. However, just about any VOES can be adapted for use by adjusting the point at which the switch closes.

    The point at which the switch closes.

    The switches can be adjusted by removing the potted plug and adjusting the setscrew. You will need an accurate vacuum gauge and vacuum hand pump. We have been able to set the operating point as low as 2 inches and as high as 7 inches.

    Why would you want a VOES?

    We have experimented with converting 1972 and later ignitions from points to electronic ignition. We have used Dyna 'S' conversions for H-D's. We have used Crane, Compufire, Spyke and other Harley Davidson conversion kits. With some of these such as the Dyna 'S', you still have to use the mechanical advance system. This requires service and routine maintenance.

    Others work very well having digital advances and provisions for a VOES switch. We experimented with installing a VOES in a 1983 FX and found we have improved throttle response and better mileage. We also routinely install the VOES in custom built Harley Davidsons and even our own Kenny Boyce framed Harley FXR's use VOES with a Crane HI4 module. During Dyno runs, we found that part throttle roll on power was increased as was throttle response.

    We believe that most street ridden Harley Davidson motorcycles will benefit from a VOES.

    For racing applications or supercharged, turbo-charged or bikes using Nitrous Oxide, we do not recommend using a VOES. This is due to the possibility of a sudden timing change causing a backfire which can be a bad thing under these conditions!

  • Camy18
    Camy18
    11 years ago
    cheers, that is all well and good. but everyones opinion is different so just looking should i leave it disconnected or reconnect it. if i reconnect it will the affect the timing
  • daddyracer56
    daddyracer56
    11 years ago

    if the voes switch is disconected it should be purple wire from moudle box  grounded  & timing reset if it pinks on hills reconected voes reset timing , dosn't matter on what  brand ign system , if its a Crane hi-4 module the instructions are wrong for setting timings without voes have already spoken with crane on this before