Hi guys , was wondering your thoughts on wether this will be an issue with Jonny Law ... the fact that the " Qld " on the rear number plate is slightly obscured .

Some here will have seen my bikes progress in the Softail section under 99 Springer project , so may be familiar with it ... I must admit i thought it might be a small concern but if it draws the crabs to much then it shouldn`t be to much of a hassle to shave off a few Mils from the small area ... would rather not though .

The numbers sure do stand out , so its not like they wont know where it comes from when they type them into there little onboard computer .

Tim .

Don't know what the federales will say but that sure does look nice. Although I reckon your giving them a reason to hassle you.

There is a post on here somewhere where a member got done for his plastic cover that slightly obstructed the plate. you could see more of his plate than yours so yeah, i reckon they would try.

Nice job, I think the rule says and please and correct me anyone. The number plate must be able to be read from 20 meters. There was a thread where one of us here sunny nazi land got fined for his number plate being obscured, the plate was a stock configuration from the dealer with the morgan and wacker plexicover. I suppose the black edge on the plexiglas was the problem.For what its worth really nice look.

I think youl get stung.

In QLD, the plate must be visible 20 metres from vechial at a 45% arc from either side and above.

$325 fine if plates are not.

The fact that qld is obscured and the plates are curved will breach number plate visibilty regulations.

Even if the plate was on outside of that rectangle recess, the curving of the plate will get you stung.

Cops will eventualy fine you. Damaged plates and plates that are covered by the lined or non lined plexi glass and plates that are covered by dirty plexi glass will get you fined if in the cops opinion that he cant read from 20 meters and at the arc. Dealer supplied plexi glass covered plates even on a new bike wont wash as an excuse with the cops. The rider is responsible no matter what dealer does.

Road transport inspectors can fine you as well allthough that usually occurs only on road side blitzes.

A few years ago, I got issued a new company work ute. It was a single cab hilux 2 wheel drive with a dealer fitted toyota tray who also fitted new number plate. I was fined cause the dealer fitted the plate that was deemed to far back under the tray. This was a brand new issued ute. The plate was 7 inches to far back for the cops liking. naturally I took it to the boss who paid the fine, but really with the idea to ask local Toyota dealer to pay it. but technically, he didnt have to, as the driver is responsible, not who owns the car.

Nice plate positioning on the bike but will cost you, Especially now. They genuinely are fining the fuck out of you for everything in the Brissy area as Newman has stated that the cops now have to produce an activity daily report, which means how many drivers/riders did you fine today.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news on a cool looking rear guard but hate to see you get stung.

Just for info, a car not towing a trailer can get fined for a tow ball that obscures a number plate and people do get fined for that. Technically, you have to remove tow ball or intall upside down if not towing a trailer. Its the roadside blitzes usually that fine for the tow ball but not allways.

Before anyone starts complaining about another copy and paste, two things: 1. Go and whinge to someone who cares   and   2. TJU asked, so only he has the right to do so, ok.

The answer is everything mick stated.

For your reference, he is the relevent regulation:

Queensland Transport Operations (Road Use Management—Vehicle Registration) Regulation 2010
Section 30  Position, visibility and legibility of number plate
(1) The registered operator of a vehicle must ensure that each number plate issued for a vehicle is permanently attached to the vehicle so that, if the vehicle is on level ground—
 (a) the number plate is—
  (i) in an upright position parallel to the vehicle’s axles;  and
  (ii) not more than 1.3m above ground level;  and
 (b) unless an accessory plate is attached to the vehicle in the way required under section 37—the characters on the number plate are visible from 20m away at any point within an arc of 45º from the surface of the number plate above or to either side of the vehicle, in the way shown in figures 1 and 2 at the end of this section;  and
 (c) any cover on the number plate—
  (i) is clear, clean, untinted and flat over its entire surface;  and
  (ii) has no reflective or other characteristics that would prevent—
    (A) the successful operation of a photographic detection device;  or
    (B) the number plate from being legible;  and
 (d) the number plate is in a clearly legible condition, including being clearly legible from any position from which it is required to be visible.

 

Note that this has been interpretted as - all characters on the plate must be completely unobstructed and clearly legible from a distance of 20 metres from an angle of 45 degrees in any direction up, down or sideways to the plate;  and  the plate must be upright and parallel to the axle, which means it must be flat.

Tim as above it doesn't really comply. Many others don't either. Some get a ticket most don't. Probably plenty of other stuff on the bike that's not quite right. If you could open it up a little to better expose QLD that may help.
I would run it and plead ignorant, I never start trying to quote the laws to the cops as that shows as being a bit of a smart arse that should know better.

Bike looks great


BUT!

it appears you are in QLD
even worse! have in your possession a motorcycle,

you are so fucked!

Of course you'll get done, anything that resembles individualism on a motorbike usually = ticket. General duties Police won't care much but Hwy patrol will. Btw looks excellent.

Thanks guys ... was more or less of the same thought process as you all ... was sort of hoping that the actual numbers are what would identify the rego and not the " Qld " ... I will be able to lower the plate a little so as the Qld will be showing more but won`t be able to straighten it out to much .

So if I get done to many times I might have to look at mounting it on the outside with more of a straight look ... will keep you informed of my impending fines and incarceration for being a free spirited Queenslander , especially you Rodders seeing as you asked so nicely, Lol .

Like you and others have said Ozy there are plenty out there that have far worse ... every Heartland Rear end kit for example , PM Phat tails and many more ... and while I might attempt a small debate with Officer Plod , I agree with you Ozy that arguing will only see me paying more money to Commandant Newmans coffers , and the less I have to give him and his cohorts the better .

For those that may be interested , the pin striping has gone on and should have the pics uploaded over the week end along with the others that I have uploaded recently ... Softail section under 99 Springer project .

Thanks again guys ... cheers ... Tim .

Lurker ... there are some here who are not in favour of your informative info but for the record I appreciate your input , anytime .

Tim is this the annivesary model bike?

You are welcome mate. I am only trying to help. This is just a thought. If you cut out the raised section underneath the tail light, in the same profile as you have bent it, that would expose the QLD completely. This would retain a similar look to what is there currently and may be enough to stop every second plod jumping down your throat every time you go out.

You have to address the number plate illumination as well while you are at it. Instant defect.

Might be an idea to create a slot downwards or rig up some LED/stripLED.

As many have replied if you block any character on the plate you run the risk. You might get away with it once or twice but sooner of later you are going to get a prick whom won't be buying the "gee I didn't know" story.

Gidday Ozy ... I still have my Anniversary 2008 Softail , same as my Avatar pic plus still have all the Original Factory Paint scheme ... the guard and taillight from above are off my 99 Softail Springer that is going through a fairly major over haul .

Lurker ... that is what I am thinking as well ... plus shaving a couple of mils off the bottom of the plate so it drops down that little bit further ... but not to far as to obscure the main numbers .

Clubbie ... the section just under the Tombstone tail light that is Flared out is actually where the little Led light is now that will act as the number plate light ... just can't see it from that pics angle ... really lights up the plate that's for sure .

Alan54 ... and Madoga and others ... yes while I had a laugh at the humour of your response`s , the sad fact is you are all so right unfortunately , well for now at least ... there is a By Election up here this week end in a couple of seats and while I don`t really think the people standing for those seats that spoke at the 2 major protest rally's really have a shot at winning it will be interesting to see if they gain any extra votes ... that might put a scare into Newman and his cohorts .

As always folks ride safe and try and stay Free ... Tim .

Good stuff TJ.

Good luck with the build.

 

Gidday Rodders ... I`m going to try the ... sorry officer , I really didn`t realise route first then if that doesn't fly which I know most likely won`t then I will go for the trimming action but might have to resort to placing it on the outside eventfully .

It will be interesting to see what else they might try and get me for over time ... I`ve tried to make sure things pass muster ... well except for the plate , Lol ... indicators are 300 mils apart , amber lenses ... Red reflector lens in tail light to cover that law ... bars are less than 900 mils apart ... Just ... pipes might raise a few eye brows as they have one almighty hole for those exhaust gases to escape from ... horn is good ... but like some have said it`s one of those areas that if the cop is a ass hole then he will find something to hassle me over .

Thanks for the words ... not long now and she will be on the road ... cheers ... Tim .

TJU
why not enlarge the hole enough that the plate will recess into it flat but bridge all the way across, the half moon gaps at the top and bottom could be filled with short LED lightbars to light up the plate, still keeping a distinctive look but a lot closer to legal

That's more or less what we will end up doing Soap Box ... there are actually little LEDS on the top part now under the tail light , just can't see them at those pics angle .

I know it more than likely will cost me money in the form of a fine and maybe even points , but I suppose I want to see how picky the law can be and how long before they have a go because as mentioned above somewhere there are thousands of Harleys out there that have there Number plate slightly obscured and never seem to get done .

I think the over riding feeling is I don`t really want to chop into what is already a very nice piece of work so will run the gauntlet so to speak .

Appreciate the words all ... cheers , Tim .