Hey all anyone had any experiences with the 

COBRA Fi2000 it's supposed to be a set and forget unit. 

 They sell on eBay for close to $540ish delivered from the states. 

 Any info as as usual much appreciated. 

Cheers. 

 

 

Agree with above. I looked into these before buying my tts. They seem to be good at auto adding fuel which is good for stage one mods but they're limited beyond that. And reviews I read suggested that they returned relatively poor fuel economy. There are cheaper fuel controllers that are effective if you don't want a full tuning module

I have a Cobra Fi2000r fuel module on my 2009 flht, ( the adjustable 3 pots module), I think they retail for approx $250 - 300 .  After reading about the Cobra Power Pro ,(no pots., self adjusting unit) , reatail for approx $500- 550 ,I considered upgrading.   It is a bit confusing , as both units are called Fi2000.   Anyway, I did some research and found out the Power Pro are not sold in Australia.  I rang the distributor for Cobra in Australia, "Link International",  and a guy called Mark told me the Cobra Power Pro does not work and not suitable for Harley bikes in Australia.   Something to do with different ECU configuration with USA and international Harley's.   That being said, I think on this forum awhile back some guy installed the Power Pro and was satisfied with it.  Fucked if I know !!!!

I sent an email to Cobra USA regarding the above, and never got a reply back !!!!         I just forget about the Power Pro, as I was satisfied with the basic Fi2000r (3 pot ) module .

My advice is ring up Link International, (just google),  and get an update on info regarding the Cobra Power Pro with regard to Australian use !!!!

There's plenty of info regarding the Power Pro on the USA forums, positive and negative .   Lets us know what you find out .         Good Luck.    

I fitted a Cobra to my 2012 FLHTC and rode it 2000 miles to Sturgis it used heaps more fuel and went like a dog The guys travelling with me were complaining about the smell of petrol when they were following me.
When I got to Sturgis I went to the Cobra stand and told them about it and they just said that it was a common problem and they offered me a new one .I got a refund and bought another TTS and it was cheaper and works like a charm. I should have stuck with the TTS in the first place .
In my opinion these things are junk and not worth buying and they only tune the fuel nothing else so a waste of money

I fitted a Cobra to my 2012 FLHTC and rode it 2000 miles to Sturgis it used heaps more fuel and went like a dog The guys travelling with me were complaining about the smell of petrol when they were following me.
When I got to Sturgis I went to the Cobra stand and told them about it and they just said that it was a common problem and they offered me a new one .I got a refund and bought another TTS and it was cheaper and works like a charm. I should have stuck with the TTS in the first place .
In my opinion these things are junk and not worth buying and they only tune the fuel nothing else so a waste of money

I have power pro and the dealer is full of shit.
Works just fine in Australia and my bike runs perfect.
Better than the crap tune the harley dealer put in my race tuner.

Set and forget no issue 7000km and going strong

It's perfect if you just can't be fucked with the tune BS like me and just looking to have the bike run best ratios etc.

I have power pro and the dealer is full of shit.
Works just fine in Australia and my bike runs perfect.
Better than the crap tune the harley dealer put in my race tuner.

Set and forget no issue 7000km and going strong

It's perfect if you just can't be fucked with the tune BS like me and just looking to have the bike run best ratios etc.

Most people love the Fi2000r, but I've heard other's complain their units used too much petrol too. I read a few people got their units replaced and didn't have the same problem with the replacements. And I don't remember where, but I know I read something where a guy told them they'd actually set the unit up wrong in the first place - a common mistake - but I don't know how true that is.

Personally I like install and forget. I think life's too short to fuckarse around with 3 billion settings. So unless you're planning on Stage 3 3 4 etc mods (if so, go TTS imo) stick with the Fi2000r, again, imo.

I have one for sale if anyone wants it, worked well for stage one modes, I up graded to a cam so went with a tuneable PV will only work with 2012-13 dyna its only done about 12,000klm, worked well on my bike, used a little more fuel but made up for the hassles of tuning, install and forget.

still got it in the box with wiring lume and intructions if anyone wants it $250 incl postage.

easy to install, takes about 1 to 2 hours.

P.M me if your interested.

BUMP BUMP BUMP

Ok so before I read a lot of negative stuff directed to the COBRA Power Pro and possibly rightly who knows back then there may have been bad units getting into the country not set up for Australian ECM's or setup wrong by users (don't know how you could do that but any things possible) now you just hook up to the bright orange ended wire that your SE tuner gets hooked up to. 
Here is some info about the plug n play version. The quick versioning the info for those who can't be arsed with the entire article.

- ANYTHING can be changed on the bike from pipes to changing your motor and the system will adjust your air/fuel ratio and timing to compensate.
- Makes 80 adjustments/reading of all variables inc atmosphere etc a second and acts accordingly.
- The unit uses crankshaft rotation not O2 sensors that can leak and have their limitations to calculate every squirt of juice.
- The COBRA unit is like being on a dyno the entire time you're riding.

Long after I posted this question I read the responses and was put off somewhat then with no fuel managment system sometime on I went on the hunt for a good plug n play syst and kept coming across this system again and again. I bought a unit that was specifically made for Aust and have had nothing but kick arse performance ever since. Never skipped a beat and the power gain was noticeable instantly as I have felt that it's night and day compared to my pre-cobra bike! Just wanted to let you all know that there is a far superior product (imo) there that you don't need to hook up to a computer to tune or turn knobs to "get it running right" as even a fully mapped bike can't optimize how it runs at altitude or with load and it really would be a shame if more people didn't at least know that it's an option and imo a really top one.

Here's the article/info:

Fi2000 PowrPro Tuner

The Fi2000 PowrPro fuel-injection tuner uses the latest smart chip technology to continuously read the bike's EFI delivery at up to 80 times per second every time the throttle is opened to optimize the air/fuel mixture at all throttle settings. With its Continuously Variable Tuning (CVT) (patent pending) technology, the PowrPro will revolutionize motorcycle fuel-injection tuning.
With PowrPro you can say good-bye to old-school EFI "mapping mania" and O2 sensor hassles forever. When your bike accelerates, PowrPro reads the engine's performance up to 80 times per second to optimize fuel delivery at all throttle openings under acceleration, under every kind of load and under all existing environmental conditions to deliver maximum acceleration.

And no matter which components you change in the future, whether it's a new exhaust system, a freer-flowing air filter setup or even a big-bore hop-up kit with new camshafts, PowrPro continues to analyze and tune your engine for peak performance.

With the Fi2000 PowrPro tuner installed on your bike, you have your own personal built-in dyno that analyzes your bike's performance, and constantly tunes the air/fuel ratio for ideal EFI delivery and optimum performance. And with the speed of today's microprocessors, it tunes on every squirt of the injectors. It provides perfect fuel settings in any riding conditions, with any exhaust system and with any engine modifications. And it's plug-in performance; just hook it up to your bike and immediately enjoy improved power beginning with the first time you twist the throttle.

No dyno testing to determine the right map.

No confusing computer-mapping downloads to select and install.

No welding hassles with O2 sensors or costly pipe changes.

PowrPro will always supply optimum fuel ratios wherever you find yourself riding tomorrow, next month or next year.

It's like having the best custom map-writing software and a dyno operator tuning your fuel delivery 80 times a second, every time you crank open the throttle.

Tunes the acceleration fuel delivery in every gear, with every roll on, every environmental change, and every engine mod, whether you're lugging the engine or winding it out to redline: PowrPro reacts, verifies and adjusts instantaneously to current riding conditions.

No matter what kind of new hardware you install on your bike--a new exhaust system, a freer-flowing air filter setup or even a big-bore hop-up kit with high-performance cams--PowrPro continues to analyze and tune your engine for peak performance.


CVT - Continuously Variable Tuning. That's the key to the remarkable performance the Fi2000 PowrPro delivers. PowrPro uses electronic control technology that calculates the bike's rate of acceleration by reading crankshaft rotation at the flywheel and changes in load just as a dynamometer measures acceleration at the rear wheel. That allows PowrPro to measure and adjust fuel flow during acceleration to the injectors in microseconds for super-fast fuel tuning: continuously and automatically! Net result: precise EFI tuning now happens in the real world in real time, nonstop: at up to 80 times per second. And that's not just at peak power settings; whenever you open the throttle for acceleration, PowrPro delivers ideal fuel metering continuously, all through the power band, and under all loads for full power and the ultimate in smooth and crisp throttle response. Patent pending.

 

Interesting does it use wideband 02 sensors ?

And What about the timing curves  ?

There is a model that uses the O2 if you wish to use them  however you're better off leaving the sensors in and defunct and using the cobra FI2000 power pro. As for the curve it works off the inner flywheel crank so any difference in cam curve will translate to a change at the crank and therefore will make the proper adjustments

 

 

Fi2000R Closed Loop

Current motorcycle engines utilizing oxygen sensors and closed loop technology have very lean air/fuel mixture settings from the factory. These settings can limit power and make the engines run hotter than earlier model-year units. The Fi2000R O2 digital fuel processor is designed to work with all exhaust systems (stock or aftermarket) equipped with oxygen sensors in place. It accurately adjusts the fuel-injected engine's air/fuel ratio in order for it to run properly. Best of all it works much like a carburetor jet kit with adjustments similar to the air-mixture screw, the needle and clip positions and the main jet.

The Fi2000 increases horsepower and torque by optimizing stock lean air/fuel ratios (helps cool the engine temperature as well)

No confusing computer downloads to install

Pre-configured from the factory for your bike and model, but easy to adjust should your specific application need it.

 

Sorry your not making sense to me.
There are 02 sensors then there are wideband 02 sensors wich are much more accurrate.
It still doesn't make sense to me on how it can adjust the timing curve .

I have the cobra 2000r 3 pot on my 48 works fine , happy with it for the coin I spent , easy to fit and adjust , mines set at 344 if your not doing past stage one upgrade they work pretty well , as for the 2000 pro tuner , a bit pricey for what it actually does , better units on the market for the same coin but each to their own

Ok indapendant48 there are 2 types of unit available well three actually. One is what Bear2009 has which uses the oxygen sensors as per most units that are manually adjusted. There is a unit that uses the oxygen sensors to auto set the correct/optimal ratios of fuel to air without any further manual manipulation other than installing it in the first place. Then there is the unit that uses the crank as a timing unit so to speak just like your speedo uses the gear speed sensor to show you what speed you're going. It's quite simple really and very accurate. The bonus being that you can change anything - which will affect the behavior or the crankshaft and load at the rear wheel. It's the same thing as a dyno. They get the power curve just fine right?! Now apply the same principle to a unit that measures the same parameters as a dyno and instead of a roller under the wheel with the bike strapped down and still, you are actually moving and the rollers are the road. Then the processor calculates the magic numbers and sends the info to the EFI unit to ad the nessacary amount of fuel etc. get it ? If you want a real tech detailed info on the details Google cobra fuel managment. Go to the website and send them an email, they are really helpful and can give you the nitty gritty lowdown on how the comp processes the data received from the bike and how they work out how much fuel etc. I hope I've answered your question. That's the best I can do. I can understand the principal and I'm a non tech savvy Chappy.

Bear2009 what units would you choose over the cobra units??
Are they just better value for money or better units overall? Also how do they operate?
I'm interested as there's always more interesting stuff you can use to make bike go fast??????????

Ok indapendant48 there are 2 types of unit available well three actually. One is what Bear2009 has which uses the oxygen sensors as per most units that are manually adjusted. There is a unit that uses the oxygen sensors to auto set the correct/optimal ratios of fuel to air without any further manual manipulation other than installing it in the first place. Then there is the unit that uses the crank as a timing unit so to speak just like your speedo uses the gear speed sensor to show you what speed you're going. It's quite simple really and very accurate. The bonus being that you can change anything - which will affect the behavior or the crankshaft and load at the rear wheel. It's the same thing as a dyno. They get the power curve just fine right?! Now apply the same principle to a unit that measures the same parameters as a dyno and instead of a roller under the wheel with the bike strapped down and still, you are actually moving and the rollers are the road. Then the processor calculates the magic numbers and sends the info to the EFI unit to ad the nessacary amount of fuel etc. get it ? If you want a real tech detailed info on the details Google cobra fuel managment. Go to the website and send them an email, they are really helpful and can give you the nitty gritty lowdown on how the comp processes the data received from the bike and how they work out how much fuel etc. I hope I've answered your question. That's the best I can do. I can understand the principal and I'm a non tech savvy Chappy.

Bear2009 what units would you choose over the cobra units??
Are they just better value for money or better units overall? Also how do they operate?
I'm interested as there's always more interesting stuff you can use to make bike go fast??????????

Yeah thanks for trying But it still doesn't make sense to me .I have played with several automotive ecu's in the past And I have had some that were capable of learning fuel mixtures from wide band 02 sensors over a period if the same conditions arose and called for the same adjustment they would apply them But this was only when cruising. As for timing curves to suit cams mods etc that all had to be entered manually along with the fueling

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Show me some evidence of a well performing tune on a bike or two with head work and cams, including some af data, and some believable consumer narrative/review on how smooth such bikes would ride, and if it's consistently as good as a bike professionally tuned on a dyno with a proper tuning device then I'd believe the claims. But until then much of that info above just reads as sales and marketing spin. Not intending to be a killjoy; just being objective

Looked into this a bit more seems like they do half a job so they'll sort out your fuel according to there claims. but not the timing.