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Pirelli Night Dragon on my FXR

4/5
  • fastapastor
    fastapastor
    10 years ago
    I got a night dragon on the rear. I'm pretty happy with it. Handles the big Kay's we'll. it hooked up great new but as it worn it takes longer to heat up and isn't really that great in the wet. But what is? I just did 9 drag runs on it as I was too lazy to put the Shinko on it. I still kept it pumped at to 40 like normal and with all the rebound taken out of the rear shocks it hooked up no worries. 11.55 best ET. Best Mph 115.
    I'd say once I get a few more Kay's out of this one I'll get another.
  • rock38
    rock38
    10 years ago
    gday tussock.....I have pirrelli night dragons on my street rod back in nz, they are a wicked tyre mate I agree, in the twistys over there and since the street rod has a great lean angle I have had the bike on the edge on both sides...its funny the arse end has a little wiggle as its a thin strip of rubber on the road but I never felt unsafe its easy to rectify, as u just sit the bike up a little, the tyre never gave out on me! now im in w.a im riding a street bob dyna im due for tyres so im wondering what is the best tyre for these roads....long straights hot road temps etc....what would you suggest for me? if you or any of your readers have any advice please do...cheers
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    10 years ago

    Right....Its been a while but you get that when you spend time riding.... I cannot believe it was last September that I started this thread (like that's 8 months ago - seems like yesterday that I put the new rubber on the old girl)

    So I have about 9,000km on the rear and about 8,000 on the front (running 40psi in the back and 30psi in the front). Still have tread on them, although its now getting low so will have to replace them shortly.  They handle all the power that I can throw at them and are very predictable in their traction....I can get them to break loose but its controlled so I actually know when its going to happen - bit possy I suppose as they let you drift around corners when your willing to really open up the throttle......LOTs of fun!

    Overall these are the best tires I have had on the bike so will definitely be sticking with the Night Dragons going forward....cannot recommend them highly enough.

  • terroristone
    terroristone
    10 years ago
    changing mine next week, have done 20000 on them
  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    10 years ago

    Have not ridden much in the last few months intend to get out a bit more. Pirelli now done about 3,000kms must be fairly soft compound as I think it's about half way worn. If that ends up being the case not sure if I will get another or try something else only time will tell. Funny thing is that the original fatbob tire seemed to have the best wear and had just as good grip wet and dry. Pity I can't get them in the size I need for the 18" stinger wheels.

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    10 years ago
    when I had my FLSTC I put a Dragon on the rear and was very impressed with the tyre. It replace a Dunlop and it was like night and day the difference, when it comes time for replacement I will be using them again.
  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    10 years ago

    Chriso I've had Dunlop 407 and they are shit for both wear and grip. I have night dragon on the rearnow  it has great grip wet and dry, only seems to be wearing quickly. I found the standard dunlop fatbob tire suprising good for grip wet,dry and good wear wise.

  • tussuck
    tussuck
    10 years ago

    Okay, So its been a while since I put the new rubber on so thought I would wrapup the thread with the results - particulary given that I have just replaced the front and rear today. 

    -  Put both tyres on in September 2013

    -  Bike has been on the road pretty much 4-5 days a week since then; a nice mild winter helped this plan!

    -  Aprox 17,000km on them.  BUT if you look at the picture (rear is the left and the front is the right) its pretty obvious that I should have replaced a few thousand kms ago, so take 3,000-4,000km off the number if your conservitive; certainly was fun to ride in the wet, especially with the turbo back on as it would let go from 1st through to 5th, but that was just me playing around and having a bit of fun...lol

    -  Costs this time were $145 for the front and $230 for the rear (this was based upon me dropping the rims off to the bike shop).  A shout out to the great service from Moto Heaven in Brighton!!!!

    -  Conclusion - Damn solid sticky tyres that suit my bike and riding style so am continuing to run them with them.  I do like these more than the Metz - which i had used for the prior 15 years.

    Rear Left & Front Right

  • robots
    robots
    10 years ago
    Hi,

    Good effort tussuck, nice review
    Thanks
    Robots
  • Colstah
    Colstah
    10 years ago

    Agree with Robots, thanks for that Tussock. I need a new front and I think I'll give the ND a go. If I get 17k outa the front I'll be pretty bloody happy.....think the 21" will likely only go half that distance, but we'll see!

    Dutchy - I always take my wheels in to get the tyres done. I've thought about changing them myself but have been reluctant 'cos of the balancing. If I read right, you do yours, what do you do about balancing?

  • robots
    robots
    10 years ago
    Hi,

    I change mine colstah, i picked up a wheel balancer static from torpedo7.com on special, i think $80 delivered, i got good results out of a 21 Avon venom x am 41 i think it called, bought a set of night dragons as you can get for reasonable price

    With the rear night dragon i couldnt break the bead with my homemade bead breaker, had to cut it off carefully, dunlop and avon can break bead easy, if i stick with night dragon i will have to make a better breaker and a clamp to actually hold wheel down for the rear, the fronts are okay
    Thanks
    Robots
  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    10 years ago

    Colstah,

    I was worried about balancing too. But heaps of my mates never do it and had no problems. One of the changes tires all the time for his race bikes never balances them. So I thought I would see how it went not doing it. Have not had a problem so far.

  • Colstah
    Colstah
    10 years ago
    Right! OK, thanks blokes.....
  • 06 Softail
    06 Softail
    10 years ago

    I just had a new set of tyres fitted to mine, I went with the Dunlop 407 (rear) & 408 (front) which suited my budget. 

    Has anyone heard of balancing beads? I work at a caravan place & that's what they use for caravan wheels.  I don't know much about them except that they are packaged in plastic bags & contains some sort of gel or adhesive & you place them in the tyre before fitting the rim back on. By the sounds of it as the tyre heats up the bag splits, with the centrifugal force of the tyre rotating, the sticky substance gets flung to that particular spot of the tyre that needs a little extra weight.

  • tussuck
    tussuck
    9 years ago
    One thing that is critical to a good life (and grip) with the Night Dragons is to make sure you have the tyre pressure spot on! I went on the Pirelli website and loaded in my bike specs and out popped a rear and front pressure (I even emailed Pirelli AU and they replied with the same numbers!)

    For me it was 29lbs front and 39lbs rear.

    It only takesa few minutes and can added heaps to tyre life!
  • Choco
    Choco
    9 years ago

    Fitted Night Dragons front and rear on my bike last Friday, went for a ride on Sunday and got caught in a storm in some of the heaviest rain I have ever ridden in, water across the road everywhere and not once did the Night Dragons feel unstable or unsafe on the road and these tyres were still a bit green being so new.

    Valve for money I don't think I could of gone wrong, I rode into the bike shop with the old tyres on and rode out with the new one's fitted for $480, yep pretty happy so far.


     

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    9 years ago
    on my old Heritage it had the 150 wide rear and the Night Dragon was awesome. I recently fitted a 180 to my SG and its not as good. Not sure why but its definitely better than the standard Dunlop.
  • dezzas
    dezzas
    8 years ago

    Nice review tussuck... so I grabbed a set 5 months ago. Found them sticky enough and good allround. Just the rear a bit hungry on chewing the center out. This is them at 8k. The front just starting to cup.  Will give them another go.

  • Drac
    Drac
    8 years ago
    I started running the night dragons on my fatboy when the original dunlops were shot.
    The only sort of negitive I would say about them is that the bald center had almost no grip in a straight line in the wet and this also made it harder to tell when they were worn out, in fact a cop pulled me up a few weeks after fitting the rear one and told me to change it because he thought it was worn out.
    After 2 sets I decided to try something different.
    I now have the new dunlop american elites on the bike and so far I dont have any issues with them, they have very good grip.
    Here is how many ks I got from each tyre
    Original dunlops
    Rear 10,612 ks
    Front 11,571 ks
    Dragons
    Rear 13,549 ks
    Front 15,750 ks
    Dragons 2nd set
    Rear 12,052 ks
    Front 13,806 ks
    American elites so far
    Rear 7,167 ks
    Front 5,413 ks
    At this stage the new dunlops look like they may live up to the claims of huge mileage, I will take a pic and post it shortly.
    I should also say that when I fitted the second set of night dragons I fitted cams which bumped the hp up a bit.
    Most of the riding I do is mixed since I bought the bike new in 2012.
    Brisbane to Mackay 4 time
    Brisbane to The Blue mountains twice
    And the rest is mostly country roads and mountains, very little around town and city.
    I hope i'm not boring everyone.
    I will post the end results of the American elites when they are shot.
    Cheers
  • robots
    robots
    8 years ago
    Good report Drac

    If you ride bends all the time the dragon best on market,
4/5