Lushy tuned my Dyna.

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  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Daggs I'd rather not say that where everyone can see. I don't like bagging people especially if they have helped me out. I will message you on FB. You going to edenhope ride.Got and dates on that. I'm getting edgie I recon I 've only done about 600 or 700km in the last fortnight. Waiting for some good weather which cone sides with days off. Been caught in the rain  a lot lately.  

  • Daggs
    Daggs
    12 years ago
    Ha ha yeah all good mate, I didn't really mean fir you to say who, like I said check the interstate forum for info on the pub run, it's a good weekend for sure!!
  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Thanks Hoody I recon if I try to work those numbers I am sure to stuff it. So I think when I am ready to ask Lushy to tune it I think a will ask you or him which pipe to buy. Bit short on the dollars at the moment but it still goes ok until then. What's funny though. With the 120r, standard headers (fat bob.) no cat or valve and S&S slash cuts, it's one of the quietest bikes among the guys I ride with. That's until about 3500rpm then I'm told it's one of the loudest. Also had some guys say it sounds like a twincam until then and a Vrod after.

    Has anyone had any experience with the hurricane heads and 12 to1 comp pistons on the 120r (also has different cam). I was talked out of it as I was told it would not run very when on pump fuel on the road. ( or a view on it )

    Cheers Dutchy

  • carbon fibre
    carbon fibre
    12 years ago

    Hoody , when I run the formula as you described, I get 437.2
    Piston speed at 6600rpm approx 5000fpm
    bore 4.125"
    pipe 1.8"

    Not sure if my calc is correct, but if 437 IS the number can you explain to us what that would tell you and what unit of measurment are we calculating, is it FPS?
    Cheers for the great info.

  • carbon fibre
    carbon fibre
    12 years ago
    Cheers, I understand some now.
    So, an actual calc showing an fps higher or lower than 300fps tells us what? Is 300fps our goal? Is this where pipe ID comes into play, to speed up or slow gas flow?
    And if you were tuning exhaust for the track, using higher rpm calcs, is 300fps still our goal?
    Once again, thanks for taking the time. Helps me a lot to understand whats going on at the noisy end.
  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Sounds like a properly set up shift light could help with acceleration. Also sounds like I will be more interested in torque than top end horsepower. For me it's the acceleration that I get off on. Love dropping back gear or two and blasting past cars, trucks & bikes. Just can't quite stay with the 1000cc jap sports bikes. Well until 220 anyway.

  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Thanks Hoody,

    I can see how keen you are in all aspects of the bike seen. Taking the time to answer questions for us guys just shows your enthusiasm. I envy you working in a field you obviously love. Have heard good things about your work through close mates of mine. When you enjoy your work it makes it easier to get good at it because the research time and effort is much easier because it's fun. Sounds like you have a good working relationship and friendship with Lushy and I have heard the same things about him. Sounds like I'm sucking but it's just nice to throw out a question and get a genuine answer. That is also true of some others that have posted on this link and others and thanks to them too.

     

    Dutchy.  

  • Harry28
    Harry28
    12 years ago
    Still reckon if ya want a fair comparison on numbers you have to put them back to back on the same machine on the same day.

    If I wanted big numders and not a good tune I know where I'd have gone. experience tells me that.
  • Forest66
    Forest66
    12 years ago

    Not long completed my 09 RoadKing.96 to 103 with hoody heads and throttle body(original out to approx 53 mm),standard injectors S&S 570 cams and quicky push rods and Wiesco pistons. Already had screaming eagle race tuner,S&S intake and vance and hines power duals with monster rounds.Assembled and tuned by Tassie Choppers.106 horsepower and 114 flbs.Very Happy

  • Harry28
    Harry28
    12 years ago
    What I probably should have said is, Comparing numbers on dyno sheets from all over the country with all types of different operators and different machines(dynos) doesn't mean a whole lot.
  • shingles
    shingles
    12 years ago

    wow reading all this was interesting but im overloaded with it now ,and yes 2 things come to mind here power accelleration grip and how 2 get off the mark and controlling the input of actually moving forward without breaking into a pile of smoke and not much forward motion ,that is if you intend to get going in a hurry an givin it a real handfull on launch in a friendly

     

    drag with ya mates or whoever clutch control is most important and feeling that through your fingers or hand ,all the power in the world get u no were if you cant control that ,yeah roll ons are good but can ya get it off the mark without spinnin up an sideways before ya change up or back off ,it all means shit really mines bigger more this that unless u can ride da

     

    thing all means shit ,ive got a little 103 stg iv fat bob screaming eagle kit ya now one of them comes in a box and drove in 1 day and picked up next day don't know how much care was put into assembly or any technical oversights on shops behalf ,cost 4700 come back wen u done 1000ks man said then motor will be dynoed in morgan wacker Brisbane ,man said

     

    at present motor producing 100+hp ok I replied an rode out an gave myself instant thrill when twisted throttle an laid darkies every set of lights on way home ,then time to be dynoed wasn't really fussed on the whole thing another 550 but man said its a must so away bike goes next day I pick bike up they said all is good heres some charts for u well chart saz

     

    117hp 117 tq  that's nice I replied paid man had a drink while motor warmed up he told me do not ride until u give motor a good warm up as we no your rideing style is aggressive and that will hurt motor listen 2 wat im saying u understand yes I nodded and left in a blaze of smoke ,now all up costs $5250.00 so whatever way ya wana put it all this tryin this then that

     

    can be a knightmare putin bits pulling bits off to try 2 achieve an outcome that is not tested or tried an proven with countless research by companies that do I dunno maybe im missing something here anyway my dyno charts are on page 4 in a past post 103 stg iv or open this file this bike is ridden like it was stolen probably 2 hard but then again been ridin 43yrs an

     

    flat out call me stupid or nutter but can ride a motorcycle in extreme ways ya no one of them blokes that does things differently to most  nothing written here is to offend anyone just my thoughts only SHINGLES

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  • Daggs
    Daggs
    12 years ago
    Nice curves shingles :) would be fun bike to ride
  • shingles
    shingles
    12 years ago

    YES its a cranky thing untill warmed up an i mean warmed  up u just dont start bike an go toodles honey i warm up say 5 min then get stuff ready then giv another 5min then turn off fuk around a bit more ,then start get dressed giv another 5 min used 2 leave goin 4 20min at one go but mrs goin off ,that bloody noise is drivin me mad, o an its wierd sounds off beat all over the place like running on 1 pot then 2 ,it is crazy just listenin 2 motor gettin itself 2 operateing temp ,but once underway u can tell if its not right it stutters an coughs so take it easy 4 a bit .THEN come 2 first lights 5-6k away an wen green just twist an dump clutch an your in for a rather fast launch an next thing u doin 100 plus in 2nd if u desire u can plod along but doesnt really like that ,i hav shift light set at 4800 hits that easy 1st  2nd 3rd im lucky m1 just down from mine so i try 2 do hwy ks mostly likes 120-130 in top gear u can have a lot of fun with this bike like u can just dump it goin around roundabouts an spin up as goin around is very controlable an steers well from rear always hand on clutch controlling power feed im very hard on machinery its all the dirt bike experience that i call on an been ridin a hell of a long time ,its just a bit of fun if i really want fast i get hyabusa but over them bikes now ,like the sound of raw ground earthy pounding in the seat of ya pants more thrill SHINGLES

  • beaglebasher
    beaglebasher
    12 years ago
    hey shinkles, i posted a thread about fucked up journeys tonight. have you ever had one?
  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Sounds like a kick ass machine.

  • shingles
    shingles
    12 years ago

    had all sorts of those if im reading an feeling this ,probably on one right now im still buzzing an tingllng jus rode 200ks was sittin on 120-130 with the occasional open u right up an lets see if u still have that sting ,and yes motor still goin like a scalded cat when really opening up untill i feel that motor givin its all ,i hav shift light an tach i change at 4800 rpm in 1st - 3rd when road allows this behaviour .hit 180 few times tonight roads were a dream long straights long slow curves dual lanes few spots av 2 go back 2 60klm but once past its of to the races again ,but my journey was my thrill 4 the week and no blue contact whatso ever in iether state not a one sighted ,i rode without glasses on coz screen allows me 2 little bit eye weeping but not excessive so that piece of plasctic bolted 2 handlebars and placed way up higher than was designed for ,but i cant bielieve how much better bike is 2 ride its the best addition ive put on bike and thats made riding distance so much easier an pegs with fully rotateable peg mounts also this part can make posisition of peg forward up backwards down up ,so im always changein peg posi 2 try and find the right spot for my bad leg ,now if ya dont want a bad journey like im putting up with on a daily basis ,rite now im in absolute agony feels like someones tryed 2 chop my foot off with a axe and foot is in half and your looking at it wincing in agony and will take anything 2 stop pain bike ride mustave stirred up all the screws an rods that are in bones its absolutely over the top and im swalloin pills just waitin for pain 2 subside ,its fuked my life ,now thats a journey u dont want ive been 2 hell an back with this leg ,ive adsked 2 remove leg as im really sick of the whole state that ive put myself in better go im getting pissed off an need 2 get beer an pills an nock myself out for the night SHINGLES

  • shingles
    shingles
    12 years ago

    had all sorts of those if im reading an feeling this ,probably on one right now im still buzzing an tingllng jus rode 200ks was sittin on 120-130 with the occasional open u right up an lets see if u still have that sting ,and yes motor still goin like a scalded cat when really opening up untill i feel that motor givin its all ,i hav shift light an tach i change at 4800 rpm in 1st - 3rd when road allows this behaviour .hit 180 few times tonight roads were a dream long straights long slow curves dual lanes few spots av 2 go back 2 60klm but once past its of to the races again ,but my journey was my thrill 4 the week and no blue contact whatso ever in iether state not a one sighted ,i rode without glasses on coz screen allows me 2 little bit eye weeping but not excessive so that piece of plasctic bolted 2 handlebars and placed way up higher than was designed for ,but i cant bielieve how much better bike is 2 ride its the best addition ive put on bike and thats made riding distance so much easier an pegs with fully rotateable peg mounts also this part can make posisition of peg forward up backwards down up ,so im always changein peg posi 2 try and find the right spot for my bad leg ,now if ya dont want a bad journey like im putting up with on a daily basis ,rite now im in absolute agony feels like someones tryed 2 chop my foot off with a axe and foot is in half and your looking at it wincing in agony and will take anything 2 stop pain bike ride mustave stirred up all the screws an rods that are in bones its absolutely over the top and im swalloin pills just waitin for pain 2 subside ,its fuked my life ,now thats a journey u dont want ive been 2 hell an back with this leg ,ive adsked 2 remove leg as im really sick of the whole state that ive put myself in better go im getting pissed off an need 2 get beer an pills an nock myself out for the night SHINGLES

  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Could someone please tell me what the cube capacity would be on this. 4.250 bore and 4 5/8" stroke.

  • Daggs
    Daggs
    12 years ago

    131 by my calculations Dutchy !

    as in the Jim's 131 which I believe is the biggest you can go in a stock frame. 

  • Dutchy Hoogen
    Dutchy Hoogen
    12 years ago

    Thanks Daggs. Thats the biggests bores Hammer advertise combined with the stroke I have now. 131 cube sounds pretty good. Now if I could just win some money.

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