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Oil change - to scavenge or not?

  • Red FLHTK
    Red FLHTK
    11 years ago

     About to start doing my own servicing on my wife's and my bike. Anyone use an oil scavenger when changing the engine oil. Thinking if I don't, maybe changing the oil at more regular intervals than in the service manual will compensate for the "contaminated oil" that's left in the bike after a change without scavenging. Do you think the workshops are using them

  • Red FLHTK
    Red FLHTK
    11 years ago

     Yeh it seems like a lot of screwing around. I wouldn't think that a small amount of old oil would make that much difference if I change the oil more often than suggested. Here's another one though, bleeding brake fluid on a bike with ABS. Just about got my head around what to do, then found some threads on the USA site saying you need some digital thing?

  • jocky
    jocky
    11 years ago

    For sure  scavenge,you will feel better yourself,......you wouldnt top up aweek old glass of milk and scull it ...lol...old oil will contaminate new oil.

    air cooled engines dish out a hammering to the oil as you know....jocky 

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    11 years ago
    from what I have read previously it is definitely a good idea to use one, as Jocky said you will contaminate your new oil with any old oil. I deliver cooking oil for a living and if there is any contaminated oil left in any of the tanks I fill it does mix with the new and the smell takes at least a few fills to eliminate it.
  • FLHuTChU
    FLHuTChU
    11 years ago

    Fortunatelly we dont use milk or cooking oil in our bikes do we, Not a useable analogy in this example methinks. But anyone is free to do what they want. This is just my opinion as you have asked.

    No workshops i know use them.

    Show me some proof that an engine will last any longer by using a scavenger and i will be a convert. Its a lot of mucking around for little gain.
    Yes i've seen all the vids and understand the principle, but if you change your oil regular enough, say 4000k ints, I would like to think the oil companies have made there oil to last at least to the recommended service intervals, so by halving the changes.....................
    All the hype makes me want one also but thats what advertising is supposed to do hey.  
    Milk? Thats for pussys anyway, i drink milk and i'm proud of it!

  • Red FLHTK
    Red FLHTK
    11 years ago

     Anyone got any idea on the ABS brake bleed problem?

  • jocky
    jocky
    11 years ago

     i do change my oil at 4000ks.,,,,and scavenge.....oil still looks like crap....so i will continue to scavenge......my opinion...

    love milk meself...lol.....jocky

  • Red FLHTK
    Red FLHTK
    11 years ago

     FLHuTChU, I think we're on the same page, I don't use one on my truck nor the missus Toyota and to date no problems. The Harley however, gets first class treatment and I just wonder if I should. Anyhow, for me it's another tinny- off to the fridge, I get first class treatment to!

  • FLHuTChU
    FLHuTChU
    11 years ago

    Not the furry ones PB, he he.

  • FLHuTChU
    FLHuTChU
    11 years ago

    I work with different types of engines every day, and when you see some of the sludge that build up and comes out, change the oil, and fill it up again and it's purring like a kitten again with no dramas. If they can work under these conditions of 24 hour running, extreme heat, missed services, water in the fuel, low coolant, customer abuse, the list goes on. They just keep on going. No scavenging goes on here.
    My point here is when you see what i see, my harley gets more than adequate attention in all areas so i know it will be fine. I'm not that worried about a little bit of "dirty" oil if you know what i mean.

    If you have the time, the patience, the money, the want for doing the extra work, go for it, I wish i did.

  • jocky
    jocky
    11 years ago

     you have answerd your own question red....just do it ...

  • Red FLHTK
    Red FLHTK
    11 years ago

    OK I agree, screw the scavenging. You wouldn't know anything about the ABS brake bleeding issue though? At the moment no one seems to.

  • Retroman
    Retroman
    11 years ago
    I do my own bike every 4000 K's , always have . AND all my mates and associates

    No scavenging to date for me ( or them !!) , and no problems

    NO SHOPS I know of do it , a "time and motion" thing no doubt !
  • Hound_Dog
    Hound_Dog
    11 years ago
    For mine, drop oil and filter, fire engine for a few seconds, scavenging complete.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    11 years ago

    For mine, drop oil and filter, fire engine for a few seconds, scavenging complete.

    Only on an EVO I hope ? This " works " on them as they filter the oil on the return leg to the oil tank.

    NOT a good idea on a twin cam which filter the oil BEFORE it goes thru' the motor !

  • Ando
    Ando
    11 years ago
    if ya have the ability to scavenge the oil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, WHY WOULDN'T YA
  • 2005 FLSTFI
    2005 FLSTFI
    11 years ago

    I started scavenging the oil a couple of years ago. My only regret is I didn't start doing it from the beginning.

    I have also put a couple of other blokes onto scavenging their bikes & they to are amazed at how much crap oil was left in before scavenging. They are now converts. 

  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    11 years ago
    Yep! I scavenge, and after 4000kms the oil has barely changed colour!! :)
  • Spero
    Spero
    11 years ago

     Just remove the oil return line into the oil tank, attach a hose & start the bike running it until the oil is clear. Obviously keep an eye on the oil level in the oil tank to make sure you don't empty it, piss easy way to scavenge the oil on a twin cam anyway..