Check Battery and Engine light coming on

  • Spartan_Wolf
    Spartan_Wolf
    11 years ago

     The other day I fired up my 2010 Sportster Iron, soon after both the engine and battery lights came on... Went back home, turned off my bike, then turned it back on and let it warm up for awhile, took off and went riding for an hour with no issues or lights coming on? Fired up for a ride today and the lights are coming on again even after letting it warm up for awhile? The battery is the same one it has had stock.I've done a bit of research and I believe it may be a bad stator or regulator? How expensive and time consuming is this kind of thing to fix at a dealership and how is this issue caused in the first place? Any comments or help would be greatly appreciated.

  • AJ56
    AJ56
    11 years ago
    Check your Regulator Earth. The same symptoms will appear with that problem.
  • Spartan_Wolf
    Spartan_Wolf
    11 years ago

     Where do I find that to check it? Sorry, I'm not very mechanically skilled.

  • AJ56
    AJ56
    11 years ago
    Have you gone through the process of checking fault codes?. If not

    Speedometer Self Diagnostics: The speedometer is capable of displaying and clearing speedometer, tachometer, TSM/TSSM and ICM/ECM Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC).

    1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

    2- Push odometer reset button in & hold.

    3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting should illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word “diag” should then appear.

    4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.

    5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)
    P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module [EFI] / Ignition Control Module [Carbureted])
    S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)
    SP = speedometer
    T = tachometer

    6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC’s the code will be displayed or the word “none” will appear if there are no DTC’s. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

    7 - Record the codes.

    8 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.
    NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC’s again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear.

    9 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

    10 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

    On models not equipped with a tachometer "No Rsp" will appear when the tachometer identifier is selected.

    "No Rsp" will also appear if the run/off switch is in the off position when doing this procedure.

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    HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
    TSSM = Turn Signal Security Module
    TSM = Turn signal module

    B0563 Battery Voltage High TSM/TSSM
    B1004 Fuel Level Sending Unit Low Instruments
    B1005 Fuel Level Sending Unit High/Open Instruments
    B1006 Accessory Line Overvoltage Instruments
    B1007 Ignition Line Overvoltage Instruments
    B1008 Reset Switch Closed Instruments
    B1121 (TSM) Left Turn Output Fault - (HFSM) Left Turn Output Open
    B1122 (TSM) Right Turn Output Fault - (HFSM) Right Turn Output Open
    B1123 (HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Ground
    B1124 (HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Ground
    B1125 (HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Battery
    B1126 (HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Battery
    B1131 (HFSM) Alarm Output Low
    B1131 Alarm Output Low TSM/TSSM
    B1132 (HFSM) Alarm Output High
    B1132 Alarm Output High TSM/TSSM
    B1134 Starter Output High TSM/TSSM
    B1135 Accelerometer Fault TSM/TSSM
    B1136 (HFSM) Accelerometer Tip Test Error
    B1141 (TSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open - (HFSM) Ignition Switch Low/Open
    B1142 Smart Security System Internal Fault
    B1143 (HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Ground
    B1144 (HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Battery
    B1145 (HFSM) Security Antenna Open
    B1151 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Ground
    B1151 Sidecar BAS Low TSM/TSSM
    B1152 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Battery
    B1152 Sidecar BAS High TSM/TSSM
    B1153 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) High
    B1153 Sidecar BAS Out of Range TSM/TSSM
    B1154 Clutch Switch Input Short to Ground
    B1155 Neutral Switch Input Short to Battery
    P0106 MAP Sensor Rate of Range Error Carb
    P0107 Map Sensor Failed Open/Low Carb
    P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low EFI
    P0108 Map Sensor Failed High Carb
    P0108 Map Sensor High
    P0108 Map Sensor High EFI
    P0112I AT Sensor Voltage Low EFI
    P0112I AT Voltage Low
    P0113I AT Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI
    P0113I AT Voltage Open/High
    P0117 ET Sensor Low
    P0117 ET Sensor Voltage Low EFI
    P0118 ET Sensor High
    P0118 ET Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI
    P0120 TPS1 Range Error
    P0122 TP Sensor Open/Low EFI
    P0122 TPS1 Low
    P0123 TP Sensor High EFI
    P0123 TPS2 High/Open
    P0131 Front Oxygen Sensor Low
    P0132 Front Oxygen Sensor High
    P0134 Front Oxygen Sensor Inactive
    P0151 Rear Oxygen Sensor Low
    P0152 Rear Oxygen Sensor High
    P0154 Rear Oxygen Sensor Inactive
    P0220 TPS2 Range Error
    P0222 TPS2 Low
    P0223 TPS2 High/Open
    P0261 Front Injector Open/Low
    P0262 Front Injector High EFI
    P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low EFI
    P0264 Rear Injector High EFI
    P0371 Crank Position Sensor (CKP)
    P0372 Crank Position Sensor (CKP)
    P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent
    P0374 CKP Sensor Not Detected Carb
    P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error EFI
    P0444 Purge Solenoid Open/Low
    P0445 Purge Solenoid High
    P0501 VSS Sensor Low
    P0502 VSS High/Open
    P0505 Loss of Idle Sped Control EFI
    P0562 Battery Voltage Low
    P0563 Battery Voltage High
    P0572 Brake Switch Low
    P0577 Cruise Control Input High
    P0602 Calibration Memory Error Carb
    P0603 ECM EEPROM Memory Error
    P0603 EEPROM Failure Carb
    P0604 RAM Failure Carb
    P0605 ECM Flash Error EFI
    P0605 ECM FLASH Memory Error
    P0605 Program Memory Error Carb
    P0607 Converter Error Carb
    P06415 V+Vref 1 Out Of Range
    P06515 V+Vref 2 Out Of Range
    P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low
    P1002 System Relay Coil High/Shorted
    P1003 System relay contacts open
    P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed
    P1009 Incorrect Password
    P1010 Missing Password
    P1270 TGS Validation Error
    P1351 Front Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
    P1352 Front Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
    P1353 Front Cylinder No Combustion
    P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
    P1355 Rear Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
    P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion
    P1357 Front Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
    P1358 Rear Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
    P1475 Exhaust Actuation Position Error
    P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low
    P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted/High
    P1501 Jiffy Stand Sensor Low
    P1502 Jiffy Stand Sensor High
    P1510 EFI Limited Performance Mode
    P1511 EFI Power Management Mode
    P1512 EFI Forced Idle Mode
    P1514 Air Flow Fault
    P1600 EFI Module Processor Internal Error
    P2100 EFI Motor Circuit Open
    P2101 EFI Motor Circuit Range Performance (Actuation Error)
    P2102 EFI Motor Circuit Low
    P2103 EFI Motor Circuit High
    P2105 EFI Forced engine shutdown
    P2107 EFI Module Processor Internal Fault
    P2119 EFI Motor Throttle Body Range Performance
    P2122 TGS1 Low/Open
    P2123 TGS1 High
    P2127 TGS2 Low/Open
    P2128 TGS2 High
    P2135 TPS Correlation Error
    P2138 TGS Correlation Error (Twist grip sensor)
    P2176 EFI Closed Position Not Learned
    U1016 Loss of ECM Vehicle Speed, Vehicle Inhibit Motion or Powertrain Security Status TSM/TSSM
    U1016 Loss of ICM/ECM Serial Data Instruments
    U1064 Loss of TSM/FSFM Serial Data to ICM / ECM
    U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data Instruments
    U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data Carb
    U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data EFI
    U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial Data to ECM
    U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data TSM/TSSM
    U1255 Missing Message at Speedometer EFI
    U1255 Serial Data Error
    U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message EFI
    U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message Instruments
    U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message TSM/TSSM
    U1300 ECM Serial Data Low
    U1300 Serial Data Low
    U1300 Serial Data Low Instruments
    U1300 Serial Data Low TSM/TSSM
    U1301 Serial Data Open/High Carb
    U1301 Serial Data Open/High EFI
    U1301 Serial Data Open/High Instruments
    U1301 Serial Data Open/High TSM/TSSM

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    AFR – Air Fuel Ratio

    ATS – Air Temperature Sensor

    BAS – Bank Angle Sensor

    CCM – Cruise Control Module

    CKP – Crank Position Sensor. The CKP generates an “AC signal” which is sent to the ECM where it is used to reference engine position (TDC) and speed.

    DTC – Diagnostic Trouble Codes

    ECM – Electronic Control Module. (The Computer) Computes the spark advance for proper ignition timing and fuel control based on sensor inputs
    (from CKP, MAP & TP sensors) and controls the low-voltage circuits for the ignition coils and injectors.
    The dwell time for the ignition coil is also calculated in the microprocessor and is dependent upon battery voltage. The programmed dwell feature gives adequate spark at all speeds.

    ECT – Engine Coolant Temperature. Sensor also controls the cooling fan relay that provides 12 Vdc to the fans.

    EFI – Electronic Fuel Injection

    EFP – Electronic Fuel Pump

    ET – Engine Temperature sensor

    FI – Fuel Injectors

    FPR – Fuel Pressure regulator

    IAC – Idle Air Control actuator

    IAT – Intake Air Temperature sensor

    ISS – Ion Sensing System…detonation detection

    MAP – manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. The MAP sensor monitors the intake manifold pressure (vacuum) and sends the information to the ECM.
    The EMC then adjusts the spark and fuel-timing advance curves for optimum performance.

    TGS - Twist grip sensor

    TPS – Throttle Position Sensor

    TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)

    VE – Volume Efficiency

    VSS – Vehicle Speed Sensor. Used as an input for idle speed control
  • AJ56
    AJ56
    11 years ago
    The regulator is at the bottom front of the motor. attached to the motor with some wires coming from it. There should be a single wire that is mounted to the engine. The is the earth, check that you have a good earth. I had a similar issue when I took my regulator off to mount an oil cooler, when I put the earth wire back on it was not a good earth and so the engine and battery lights came on when on a run. Moved the earth wire to a better position and it fixed the issue.

    Once you check for codes list the codes then go from there.
  • Spartan_Wolf
    Spartan_Wolf
    11 years ago

     Got it into the local stealership, turns put it's a bad regulator and stator...  Gonna cost me around $350 for both parts and $400 in labour, I found it funny that it was the stator aswell as I haven't noticed any performance issues? So all up $800.... shit situation but oh we'll I guess.

  • 06 Softail
    06 Softail
    11 years ago

     Cheers for those codes AJ, this would be a handy reference to have in future.

  • TobyOne
    TobyOne
    5 years ago
    Quoting Spartan_Wolf on 24 Jun 2013 02:44 AM

     Got it into the local stealership, turns put it's a bad regulator and stator...  Gonna cost me around $350 for both parts and $400 in labour, I found it funny that it was the stator aswell as I haven't noticed any performance issues? So all up $800.... shit situation but oh we'll I guess.

    Ouch.  I know this is an old comment but sounds like i have same situation now, already replaced battery and regulator and dagnabbbit the engine and battery light both still coming on (Diagnostics code P0562 Battery Voltage Low).  checking out stator today when i would rather be riding!!