I ( like most others i suspect ) thought it would be as simple as buying a sporty, chopping the arse of and welding a new one on. Done. Lets go riding. As I now know that type of mod requires a full ICV ( thanks for the heads up Chopaweeza) I think if I was going to head down the path of misery, pain and heartbreak ( ICV) then it may as well be on a complete frame such as a hooligan from Bitter End etc. After trawling the net for hours and hours and finally finding a bit in some dank moist corner of the web ( note to Dept of transport, if you make the info accessible, people might just use it!!!!!!!!!)  I came accross the checklist used by the icv engineers, and ..................wow................... theres alot to say the least. I wold love to hear anyones first hand experience of doing an ICV especially in QLD. Im not totally off the idea yet.... just looking for a less painfull alternitave.which brings me to the topic of this thread. I was on the phone to a riding bud, chewing his ear about my predicament and remembered his wife had an older model sporty in the shed that hardly ever gets started let alone riden and would he be interested in parting with it. Turns out he was thinking about the same thing so we are currently in the process of finding mutual ground price wise. In the process of "selling" the bike he told me that while it was registered as an 86 model, although someone had told him at a bike show years ago that the frame wasnt 86 but more like 52 ( correct me if I am wrong but sportys didnt start production till 57?) I said theres one way to prove it and thats check the serial number on the neck with Harley. He told m that there wasnt any identification number on the neck , or anywhere else for that matter. So, my deviate mind is crunching into overdrive thinking if this frame is pre bullshit and no numbers are on it then I should be able to chop or preferably swap aftermarket frame into without having to do the ICV thing. Can anyone throw any light on this???? Btw thebike has been registered for years as is. thanks in advance. Matt P.S this is my ride . was just playing with colours on the computer " /> I ( like most others i suspect ) thought it would be as simple as buying a sporty, chopping the arse of and welding a new one on. Done. Lets go riding. As I now know that type of mod requires a full ICV ( thanks for the heads up Chopaweeza) I think if I was going to head down the path of misery, pain and heartbreak ( ICV) then it may as well be on a complete frame such as a hooligan from Bitter End etc. After trawling the net for hours and hours and finally finding a bit in some dank moist corner of the web ( note to Dept of transport, if you make the info accessible, people might just use it!!!!!!!!!)  I came accross the checklist used by the icv engineers, and ..................wow................... theres alot to say the least. I wold love to hear anyones first hand experience of doing an ICV especially in QLD. Im not totally off the idea yet.... just looking for a less painfull alternitave.which brings me to the topic of this thread. I was on the phone to a riding bud, chewing his ear about my predicament and remembered his wife had an older model sporty in the shed that hardly ever gets started let alone riden and would he be interested in parting with it. Turns out he was thinking about the same thing so we are currently in the process of finding mutual ground price wise. In the process of "selling" the bike he told me that while it was registered as an 86 model, although someone had told him at a bike show years ago that the frame wasnt 86 but more like 52 ( correct me if I am wrong but sportys didnt start production till 57?) I said theres one way to prove it and thats check the serial number on the neck with Harley. He told m that there wasnt any identification number on the neck , or anywhere else for that matter. So, my deviate mind is crunching into overdrive thinking if this frame is pre bullshit and no numbers are on it then I should be able to chop or preferably swap aftermarket frame into without having to do the ICV thing. Can anyone throw any light on this???? Btw thebike has been registered for years as is. thanks in advance. Matt P.S this is my ride . was just playing with colours on the computer " />
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  • fatmatt
    fatmatt
    11 years ago

    I posted this over in the sporty section but had no replys so thought i'd give it a crack here

    Hi y'all.

    i allways keep an eye on this sporty section but dont ever post in it as I currently have a Fatboy ( looking to sell/swap) but more on that later.

    So a little backround on my quest to bring you up to speed.

    I finished the chop on my fatty and have been getting the itch again. You all know the feeling. The grass is always greener on the other side.

    I have a hankering to build a rigid with  250 rear and sports bike front and bombed sporty/Buell running gear so its sort of a drag bike look. anyway i have the exact look in my minds eye, just like I did before I started on the fatboy.

    I have explored several options on how to achieve this bike with the minimum amount of ( most importantly) cost and secondly fuss ( ie ICV&160<img src=" border="0" src="/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/_default/emoticons/wink.gif" /> I ( like most others i suspect ) thought it would be as simple as buying a sporty, chopping the arse of and welding a new one on. Done. Lets go riding. As I now know that type of mod requires a full ICV ( thanks for the heads up Chopaweeza) I think if I was going to head down the path of misery, pain and heartbreak ( ICV) then it may as well be on a complete frame such as a hooligan from Bitter End etc.

    After trawling the net for hours and hours and finally finding a bit in some dank moist corner of the web ( note to Dept of transport, if you make the info accessible, people might just use it!!!!!!!!!)  I came accross the checklist used by the icv engineers, and ..................wow................... theres alot to say the least.

    I wold love to hear anyones first hand experience of doing an ICV especially in QLD. Im not totally off the idea yet.... just looking for a less painfull alternitave.which brings me to the topic of this thread.

    I was on the phone to a riding bud, chewing his ear about my predicament and remembered his wife had an older model sporty in the shed that hardly ever gets started let alone riden and would he be interested in parting with it. Turns out he was thinking about the same thing so we are currently in the process of finding mutual ground price wise. In the process of "selling" the bike he told me that while it was registered as an 86 model, although someone had told him at a bike show years ago that the frame wasnt 86 but more like 52 ( correct me if I am wrong but sportys didnt start production till 57?) I said theres one way to prove it and thats check the serial number on the neck with Harley. He told m that there wasnt any identification number on the neck , or anywhere else for that matter.

    So, my deviate mind is crunching into overdrive thinking if this frame is pre bullshit and no numbers are on it then I should be able to chop or preferably swap aftermarket frame into without having to do the ICV thing.

    Can anyone throw any light on this????

    Btw thebike has been registered for years as is.

    thanks in advance.

    Matt

    P.S this is my ride . was just playing with colours on the computer
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  • El Skitzo
    El Skitzo
    11 years ago
    You're right Sporties came out in '57 not '52.

    If you're not willing to go down the ICV path then your only options are to find a rigid already registered and use that as your base, or take a HUGE risk and do the numbers swap deal that you're thinking of. First time you ever get pulled over on a bike like that and the cops run it through the system it will probably be taken off the road (permanently), and if you ever had an accident on it I'm sure your insurance company wouldn't payout either.

    The other option is build what ever you want from scratch and ignore rego and just ride it on temporary movement permits. That way you're legal with the cops and don't have to compromise on the design of the bike. You won't have any insurance while riding though...

    Building a rigid in this country has no easy answers unfortunately
  • fatmatt
    fatmatt
    11 years ago

     Thanks chop but one of the points of the exercise was to free up a little folding,( by selling/trading mine)and the big dogs as nice as they are, don't come cheap so it kinda defeats the purpose. Plus I really enjoyed building the fatty. It gives a real sense of satisfaction once your finished and not to mention receiving complements on it is pretty cool.So I want to do another one in a completely different style, hence the rigid/ buell thing I talked about earlier.

     

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    11 years ago
    Hi Matt
    a bit of topic mate but how do you find riding the fat boy with the bigger front wheel. I asked this question else where but got no response. I have a 2008 Heritage softail classic and if the tax man is good to me i am thinking of putting the same wheels on it, cheers Steve.
  • MADOGA
    MADOGA
    11 years ago
    Isnt the pre 78 sportster bolt on rigid an easy option ?

    as i understand its classed as a suspension change /mod and no paper work or testing required