Thundermax cable

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    10 years ago

     anyone have a spare data cable they want to sell. Bit of a long shot but maybe someone has bought a 12 foot lead and no longer needs the standard one. If not it's $58 from Rollies for a12 footer as that's all they have. 

  • Rocky2010
    Rocky2010
    10 years ago

    You can get those cables from Dick Smith Electronics or most electronic stores

    Purchased a USB to Serial cable for mine and I think it cost about $25 bucks

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    10 years ago
    I read on here somewhere that only the genuine lead will work, something about a chip in it. So you got a non Thundermax lead and it worked ?, would certainly be cheaper.
  • RedNed
    RedNed
    10 years ago

    Hey Steve

    I gather you are after the data cable not the USB to Serial Conversion Cable. If so, they cannot be purchased from any electronic retailer, only the USB to 9 pin serial data conversion cable can!

    My Model has a round 3 pin Mini DIN connector on one end and a 9 pin (DB9) connector on the other. Not all of the 9 pins are connected though - its just a plain old serial transmission line (RS232) - 3 wires  - TX, RX and ground. If you can't find any here in Australia (without having to take out a 2nd mortgage to pay for it) give Mark at M&M cycles a go for the cable.

    If I can find the right DIN connector (or connector type) for your TMax model, I can make you one - providing you are not in a big hurry!!!

    I need to know the connector type on your TMax unit and the length of the cable you want - My unit is the first type where the Auto tune was a seperate unit to the ECU and plugged in to it through the data plug.

    I use a laptop (Win XP) with a PCMCIA serial port card (little card slot on the side) and don't need a USB cable!

     

    Cheers

    Chris

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    10 years ago
    Hi Chris
    thanks for the info and offer mate but I am fitting it this weekend so will have to pay the $57 to Rollies to get the job done,
    cheers Steve.
  • Rocky2010
    Rocky2010
    10 years ago

    My Thundermax with Autotune has the usb to serial cable and I have not issue with the cable I purchased from Dick Smith's. You didn't mention what type of the Thundermax you had.

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    10 years ago
    its an auto tune to suit my bike, I cant remember the model numbers but I looked it up on their site to make sure it would fit before I bought it. I ended up getting the data cable from Rollies just to be sure. I am going to have a go at fitting it today but only have a laptop so see how I go.
  • RedNed
    RedNed
    10 years ago

     Hey Steve

    laptops are ideal for running the Tmax setup. If you have a more recent model laptop then you may not have a 9 pin sîerial data port on it - this is where the USB to Serial cable comes in handy ( as Rocky mentioned). Some versions of windows have a driver in the software for the USB to Serial data conversion - others don't and it is normally supplied on a mini disc with the cable. The USB to Serial cable gas a small chip in the DB9 Connector that corrects the data rate from USB (hi speed) to RS232 (snail pace) and vice versa. I may be wrong but I think all the TMax units have a RS232 data interface (3 pin serial port) - round 3 pin mini DIN - please correct me if I am wrong - this helps me create wiring diagrams for repair or manufacture.

    Try to select a map as close as possible to your bike configuration and follow the initialisation setup closely. I ran mine for about a tank of fuel under city and country riding and then connected the L/top up to it and looked at the autotune results. You can see the corrections made  to the map. I then ran 'automap' and it created a new map with the autotune results (the original map is stiil saved) save the new map onto your laptop by using the 'save as' function and create a name for it (I use the current date in the yankee format mmddyyyy). Be careful though - if you use 'save' you will overwrite the original map with your new automap.

    I think the TMax is a great product - the wideband O2 sensors are much better than the OEM models and you can get a wider adjustment to the AFRs- been running mine for 4 years - no problems and easy to use if you read the directions carefully - good support from the US as well.

    Just yell if you need help (via email- I'm a bit far away for physical help......lol)

    Regards

    Chris

  • Steve L
    Steve L
    10 years ago
    thanks Chris for the info and help mate it is much appreciated. I do have a late model laptop and it doesn't have the serial port connection so I will need to get the adapter, I think the bloke at Rollies said it was around $25. I tried a couple of shops this morning but no go.
  • 06 Softail
    06 Softail
    10 years ago

     Hey RedNed, pity I didn't know you were in BH as a 5 of us SA Forumites were up there Anzac weekend. It would have been a perfect opportunity for me to get the gist of TMax on my Softail. I'm wanting to do a bit of a tune up, now that I've done over 3,000 km's since it was installed. I am wanting to get rid of the odd cough/splutter during throttle blip on down shifts. How do I instal the TMax software on my laptop?  I'm running windows vista full version. 

    Cheers.

  • RedNed
    RedNed
    10 years ago

     Hey Softy06

    I don't think TMax is compatible with Vista.There are recon laptops out there with XP & Win98 that will run TMax and you should have got a CD with the setup program on it. If not, it can be downloaded from the TMax website (plus the upgrades). I found that running the Auto IAC feature eliminated that cough and fart from the change down throttle blip.

    I am not sure if the TMax program will be released with a version that operates with the later microsoft operating systems. Mine works dead simple on XP and a pcmcia serial port card. Sorry I can't be much more help but whether desk top or laptop, you are limited by the operating system (XP or 98). BTW you can use the TMax program on your laptop/desktop to check any other TMax setup - its a base program and can be used to check your mates setup too (if they have a TMax.....lol).

    Regards

    Chris

  • 06 Softail
    06 Softail
    10 years ago

     Cheers for the reply RedNed. I might have to wait a while to get a recoed laptop, as money is going to be a bit tight for a while, due to wife expecting our first child in the next 3 months, and I'm still needing to upgrade my car to a more family friendly one.

  • jeffrond
    jeffrond
    3 years ago
    Quoting RedNed on 16 May 2013 03:58 AM

    Hey Steve

    I gather you are after the data cable not the USB to Serial Conversion Cable. If so, they cannot be purchased from any electronic retailer, only the USB to 9 pin serial data conversion cable can!

    My Model has a round 3 pin Mini DIN connector on one end and a 9 pin (DB9) connector on the other. Not all of the 9 pins are connected though - its just a plain old serial transmission line (RS232) - 3 wires  - TX, RX and ground. If you can't find any here in Australia (without having to take out a 2nd mortgage to pay for it) give Mark at M&M cycles a go for the cable.

    If I can find the right DIN connector (or connector type) for your TMax model, I can make you one - providing you are not in a big hurry!!!

    I need to know the connector type on your TMax unit and the length of the cable you want - My unit is the first type where the Auto tune was a seperate unit to the ECU and plugged in to it through the data plug.

    I use a laptop (Win XP) with a PCMCIA serial port card (little card slot on the side) and don't need a USB cable!

     

    Cheers

    Chris

    RedNed,
    Are you still around?  Do you happen to know what pins of the mini DIN go to what pins of the DB9?  Is one of the pins ground or is the "shield" of the mini DIN the ground leaving one of the actual pins not connected?
    Thanks,
    Jeff
  • dicko
    dicko
    3 years ago
    My thundermax is the same as Redned's. It's round connector  and db9 . I used a usb to serial converter and it worked Ok. Autotune unit is separate and plugs into the bike data cable. I had he unit on here for sale a while back. it seems nobody was interested . its still here in the box.
  • Daffy
    Daffy
    3 years ago
    Quoting 06 Softail on 18 May 2013 10:13 AM

     Hey RedNed, pity I didn't know you were in BH as a 5 of us SA Forumites were up there Anzac weekend. It would have been a perfect opportunity for me to get the gist of TMax on my Softail. I'm wanting to do a bit of a tune up, now that I've done over 3,000 km's since it was installed. I am wanting to get rid of the odd cough/splutter during throttle blip on down shifts. How do I instal the TMax software on my laptop?  I'm running windows vista full version. 

    Cheers.

    I have a Thundermax on my Deluxe. I’m in Angaston. Guy up here set mine up and he still has the programme on his laptop. I’m sure he could sort it out. PM me if you need help. When he installed mine I just watched on in amazement.