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Trickle charging - what's that about?

  • Colstah
    Colstah
    11 years ago

    It seems that whenever an electrical question/problem pops up on this forum, at least some blokes will mention they trickle charge their bike battery.

    Why?

    Obviously if it's flat, or run down (which for me, isn't often), it'll need a charge, but otherwise I never trickle charge mine. Mostly if it ever gets too low to give a decent kick over, I just jump start with the car or whatever, then let the alternator do it's work when I'm out riding....

    Just curious... Is it something to do with the late model bikes? Mines a '94..

  • Geoff3DMN
    Geoff3DMN
    11 years ago
    Batteries lose the ability to hold a charge faster when stored in a discharged or partially discharged state. If a trickle charger is kept hooked up then the battery is kept in a fully charged state and that has the effect of lengthening the life of the battery (some of the smart chargers do even more than that).

    The effect can be seen more with bikes that are only ridden occasionally than with bikes that are everyday commuters because the regular use keeps the battery topped up near full charge.

  • Tim S.G.
    Tim S.G.
    11 years ago

    The newer bikes with immobilisers and alarms will drain a battery while they sit in the shed .

  • blueystar
    blueystar
    11 years ago
    Means if you use trickle charger you don't ride much
  • FLHuTChU
    FLHuTChU
    11 years ago

    Ha ha. +1 Bluey.
    I've never used a trickle charger on any of the bikes i've owned. And only ever had to replace a couple of batterys when old after about 5 years.

    Longest i went without a ride was on my 07 fatty for 3 months. When i did get back on it she fired up first go no probs.

    I suppose they do have there place for climates that have to "winterise" their machines.

  • petebob
    petebob
    11 years ago
    I work month on month off, so bike sits in the garage for the time I'm away.
    No trickle charger here. Never any probs starting after being away.. Battery replaced after almost 4 yrs.
  • 78gold
    78gold
    11 years ago

    I use one as with 3 bikes registered (and a company car) they dont all get ridden enough.
    I have two chargers using the same clips and interchange between the three bikes dependant on what I am riding most often.
    My 62 Trumpy Chop is kick only and starts easily if left on trickle charge between rides. The boyer ignition I am running likes a fully charged battery.
    The Bonnie and the lowrider probably dont need it but I like the security of knowing if I jump on any of em they will fire up no problems.

    I have the trickle chargers running through a timer so only can top up/charge for about three hours per night (Off peak for what its worth although the draw is very low).

    Wouldn't be without one these days.

    Ride Safe All
    Nigel

  • rider
    rider
    11 years ago

     

    Keeping the battery in a state of full charge prolongs it's life.

     

    Hitting the starter with a fully charged battery creates less heat and load on both the battery and starter motor.

     

    Hitting the starter with a battery that is a bit low may still fire the engine up, but the added heat factor is more liable to promote battery plate distortion, or buckling. The more ya load a battery up that's not fully charged the sooner it will crap out.

     

    On the later machines, some tuners will not operate properly unless the battery voltage is fully charged.

    (selected function failed -- battery voltage too low)

    After a couple of starts or cranks, the fully charged state is knocked off the battery and unless the charging system has had a long enough run above idle speed the battery may not hold sufficient charge to satisfy the requiements of the ECM and tuner.

    Also take into account that unless you isolate the headlight / tail light / accessories, they draw a fair bit of current with the ignition turned on and charging system not running.

     

    Voltage drop when hitting the starter with a less than fully charged battery reduces the voltage supplied to the ECM while cranking, they can be funny little fuckers and do strange things if they're not getting what they need.

  • robots
    robots
    11 years ago
    Hi,

    I seen the Harley charger on eBay just recently,$64 I think

    What other options available?
    Thanks
    Robots
  • perthhog
    perthhog
    11 years ago
    jr fighter from supercheap have used it for about 3years now used on two harleys and my street/strip car value for money about $48 bucks ? i have them hard wired never have to bring my $800 doller snap on insant charger out any more
  • 78gold
    78gold
    11 years ago
    Perthhog,
    +1 on the hard wired, I got one set of terminal connectors with each charger and just made a third set up with a connector from Jaycar.
    I even threw a fuse in the line just in case.
    I did notice one charger lead had a fuse in line and the other didn't. I assume the one that didnt has a fuse in the charger itself??

    Just don't forget connected and ride off, I have once and once only. Now I lay the cable over my seat so it is pretty obvious.

    Ride Safe
    Nigel
  • Colstah
    Colstah
    11 years ago
    Thanks, some logical answers there!! ;)
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    11 years ago
    I have fitted "Battery fighter junior" battery tenders to my bikes and cars since the late 1990's

    Frasers ( here in Perth at least !) have fitted them to all new Harleys they retail since 2006/2007

    Apparently this was to alleviate the " Battery / warranty " issues they were having with the FIFO guys after 3/4 weeks away

    You can of course go thru' the palaver of "disabling" the alarm and immobiliser but nobody ever does !

    With tender use and regular bike use I have seen several Harley OEM batteries ( actually made by DEKA !) go 7 years

    So at $60 spend they're well worth it. All the kits come with crocodile clip ends as well , so you can use them on the boat/jetski etc etc.
  • KiwiRob
    KiwiRob
    11 years ago
    With month on/month off job, my battery fucked out a month after 2 year warranty expired. Deal was good, and replaced it anyway, but said they won't do it again unless I use some sort of battery tender, which was fair enough. Anyway, got a 5 watt solar panel and fitted a small male electrical plug to the panel's lead, then hard wired in a small female electrical socket with an in-line fuse to the battery. Panel sits on top of the garage roof and has done the trick since '09. - Rob
  • blueystar
    blueystar
    11 years ago
    Over here in the west we don't park up for winter