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Lane splitting

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  • careyman
    careyman
    12 years ago

     pretty good vid..

     

    agree??

     

  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    12 years ago
    Interesting watch. I agree, we should be able to bend certain rules when it is benificial to our saftey.
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago
    +1
  • Colstah
    Colstah
    12 years ago
    Yeah, I agree with the comments and propositions of the video, of course it should be allowed.

    Would I do it? I always used to, but not so sure about that in moving traffic anymore.... older and wiser, bigger bike and mainly a lack of trust makes me wary about that. Although there is still some risk, I'd definitely move through stationary traffic to get to the front of the lights and so on....

    And Bonkerz..no 'bending rules', that relies too much on a coppers judgement and mood....lets change the rules!! :)

  • Nomada
    Nomada
    12 years ago

    Lane splitting in traffic that's stopped.....can't see a problem.

    Lane splitting with moving traffic....I don't think so. There's no guarantee the cage will not lane change on you.
    We're seeing it more now than before where the car starts to change lanes before indicating, using mirrors and checking their blind spot.

     

    They seem to forget how to drive when they get behind the wheel.

  • careyman
    careyman
    12 years ago
    only difference i see here is (at least around melbourne) the lanes are much narrower making the splitting while moving alot more dangerous
  • Wimbo
    Wimbo
    12 years ago
    I can only lane split on wider lanes and then I do it in stopped trafic.
  • poverty rider
    poverty rider
    12 years ago
    I am hesitant - seen too many people get out of cars while sitting at the traffic lights.
  • Nomada
    Nomada
    12 years ago
    No it's not legal in Aust, but it was in a report put to the Vic government.

    It's in a thread here somewhere.
  • rob.williams
    rob.williams
    12 years ago

    Not that easy on a Road King or similar bike

  • allde
    allde
    12 years ago
    Hopefully it'll become lawful soon, moving through stationary cars to get to the front is smart, whilst the cars are moving is like playing Russian roulette.
  • Big Steve
    Big Steve
    12 years ago
    I do It on the freeway when its gridlocked but not when cars are moving, you're not saving any time if the traffic is moving. And having said that I don't do it to save time, I'm in no rush to get to work.

    I was booked by a motorcycle copper a few years back on the monash for splitting in slow moving (ie down to slower than walking pace) traffic, the infringement said "Operating a Vehicle in an unsafe manner" which to me leaves it quite open to interpretation.

    On freeways I wish I didn't have to split, I'd rather be able to ride in the emergency lane. I have a 12 Seater ford transit bus and can legally drive it down the emergency lane on the eastern freeway. Bikes should be able to do the same.

    As the vid says its about getting OUT of the traffic flow.
  • MADOGA
    MADOGA
    12 years ago
    Ill split in stopped traffic and slow moving depending on the day and how crazy the cagers look.

    best thing with sporty bars on a super glide is nice n narrow
  • Maxiboy
    Maxiboy
    12 years ago
    Just fucking common sense. If everybody breaks a law constantly, then it is a bad law!
  • FLSTC
    FLSTC
    12 years ago
    i lane split but generally when traffic is stopped .... I have been cautioned by cops but not yet booked for doing so. The biggest issue I come across is the odd driver who takes offence at lane splitting if i happen to ""end up" sitting next to or immediately in front of them after lane splitting. They will move their car across the lane forcing me out of theirs or alternatively tail gate making life uncomfortable. Making it legal would stop these fools from getting road rage and putting bike riders at risk.

    Note - this only happens when on sports bike and never happened on Harley.

    *insert fuckin angry smilie here*
  • scotti
    scotti
    12 years ago
    Operating vehicle in an unsafe manor , does seem to be open to interpretation and probably for a areason too , i was once told by an officer , that as long as you were indicating and wholey within the lane you indicated to go into , it`s `Open to interpretation` as well , but in our favour , but they don`t seem to extend that sorta interpretation often unless it suits them and their agenda of nailing your arse to the wall in the name of road safety and not revenue , though using that excuse may just warrant the issuing of a warning or something depending totally on the officers exercising discresional leniency , rather than issuing any infringement notice ?
    I lane split in stopped or slow moving built up traffic when it`s safe to do so , afterall value my life as much as anyone elses , though indicate and mostly enter a lane rather than ride along the white dotted line itself , same goes for riding in the breakdown/emergency lanes , indicate that way the whole time , probably shouldn`t say it as sure as shit , next time i do it i`ll get nailed , but i have done it the same way for years and not been pinched for it as yet , if you are pulled over for riding in the breakdown lane , if indicating , at least ya can say ya were just pullin over to make a call as required ?
    Wish the authorities would just be clear about it , educate drivers and declare it legal to split lanes in safety , as is in many other countries , seems rediculous for bikes of any type to sit in traffic with cages of any type , if there is a safe way for the bikes to filter through safely , less congestion , less travel time , less emmitions , it only makes sense !
    One that does lane split should already be aware as a rider to be ready for anything and expect the unexpected like animals , pedestrians or vehicles turning across your path either way , lane split slowly as if any door could open at anytime , learn to read other vehicles drivers and their occupants , countries where lane splitting is legal , the vehicle occupants are all usually aware of the need to look before they fling the vehicle doors open , in Thailand for instance you see it all the time , usually by tourist from countries where it isn`t allowed , done it once myself , lucky the person i did it to , was on the ball or i woulda been in shit i reckon ?
  • BillS
    BillS
    12 years ago
    18 October 2012

    AUSTRALIAN FIRST LANE FILTERING TRIAL FOR MOTORCYCLISTS IN THE SYDNEY CBD

    The NSW Government will allow motorcyclists to filter through stationary vehicles at CBD intersections to test if the practice improves traffic flow.

    Roads Minister Duncan Gay said the unique trial developed by Transport for NSW will start on 1 February 2013 and involve three months of data gathering by the Centre for Road Safety.

    “We will be monitoring the trial sites regularly and, as always, ask that motorists drive carefully and considerately.” The lane filtering will be confined to an area bound by Sussex Street, Market Street, St James Road, Macquarie Street, Alfred Street and Hickson Road.

    Rules for motorcyclists

    Lane filtering means motorcyclists can only move between stationary vehicles at intersections.


    Specific conditions will include taking extra care when filtering near buses, no filtering on the left in the kerbside left lane or dedicated turning lanes, and riders must stop at the intersection stop-line.


    Lane filtering has to stay within a lane, it is not overtaking.

    Lane splitting will not be allowed – this involves motorcyclists weaving through moving traffic instead of stationary traffic.
  • scotti
    scotti
    12 years ago
    Haleluja , `bout fucking time , anymore regs they wanna attatch to it though , like to see them try it , or demonstrate it themselves on tv , in this guise ? FFS
    They need to have a bike filtering area like the current pedestrian strip in front of the traffic at lights or there will be carnage , they only need to add another pedestrian strip or even better , have cars pull up at a line 5 metres short of the pedestrian strip at lights for this to work well ?
    What is the point of filtering when ya can`t pass the line and are forced to sit beside (not in front of) a car but cannot filter when the traffic moves , seems odd ?
    Not sure their logic is right , sounds a bit scary too me ?
  • careyman
    careyman
    12 years ago
    no doubt some fukwitt will do it wrong, say, on a roundabout in moving traffic or something and get killed and the whole thing will be ended
    pessimistic?
  • FLSTC
    FLSTC
    12 years ago
    its a great initiative and i suppose they have limited the area so it can be "properly assessed"

    that said , having worked in the sydney for some time i can tell you that many bikes including me already filter so i would expect it to become permanent.



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