3 or more EPA roadside test failures can lead to vehicle having Vin cancelled - never to be registered again so they told me.
Also continually getting a letter in the mail by being dobbed on can also lead to issues.
Don't know what would happen if someone would refuse the test?
Often wonderd about some sort of hidden kill switch so the bike can't be started? Being able to disable the key fob from transmitting on the later models could work?
All this EPA testing crap isnt new. I got done by a road side test over 10 years ago & the fine then was about $560 I think.
First time I ever swore at the cops. When I finished my rant about the value of the fine Mr EPA said "piss me off enough & I'll make sure this bike gets de-registered & never gets registered again.
What this loud?
you can look at http://bigcitythunder.com/ also
Hey Vader how dya go with the smart parts baffles mate?, just ordered up a set from the US tonight for my V & H short shorts, hoping they will reduce the noise at least enough so I don't get ringing in my ears every time I go for a spin!
riding up the coast today even other harley riders were giving me squinty looks... The short shots sure are loud that's for sure.....
Ah .... i've been a bit slack over the holiday period .... my bad .... The baffles aren't here yet .... mainly because i haven't ordered them - need more info whether the SEII ones will fit the '07 and after SEs .....
You want to do a video - a before and after for the V&H Short Shots - and if you've got an iPhone - get the Decibel Meter app - its free....
While its not totally 'calibrated' and all - it'll give some sort of indication whether there IS an actual reduction in sound at different rpms ...
Looking forward to the vid, bro.....
Haha no worries, maybe I'll let you know if if mine turn up 1st then... Just hoping for at least a bit of DB reduction, and to be less of a police magnet.
I've read that the V & H 'quiet baffles' can be used with the smart partz ones with a bit of modding. Might have to try that if there still ear splitting..
Same here fish, fitted some to my sporty with V & H short shots a week or so back... And was very pleased with the new rumble, rather than the ear piercing thunder they were before! They are still loud with the 'smartpartz' fitted, but can be controlled if stealth mode is needed to get past highway cops etc...
Highly doubt if they would get past EPA tests though.
All of this is just plain harassment. It's time the cops did their job propperly and getting dangerous dickheads off our roads, and crims locked up instead of this money making bullshit.
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I thought they also looked for a compliance stamp on the mufflers as well as conducting the noise test. It states noise levels at certain RPM and complies with Australia EPA standard bla bla bla......
Relatively late addition to this thread. I have some US spec stock OEM mufflers for Softails for sale in the for sale section ( where else Duuh!)
http://www.hdforums.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=71&forumid=9&postid=465815&view=topic
They are louder than our stock Aussie mufflers , and have no catalytic converters in them. They obviously have all that "road legal" shit embossed into them , albeit US legal. They will pass ANY roadside test, visual or noise. We as standard in Australia get the most restrictive exhausts in the Harley world , even more than California FFsake !!
I was probably suckered but the dealer I bought my bike from but he told me that the Screaming Eagle slip ons that are on my bike came in just under the legal limit. I read in a former post that no SE slip ons are legal, does anyone know, these are not very noisy at all but definitely more than stock.
From previous post in 2009 re EPA etc
Had a set of SE slipons installed on my 08 Heritage about 500 k ago. Was told by the stealer at the time that they were not so loud as they would alert the boys in blue, but would fail if they got EPA tested.Got put through the ringer by the EPA at a police blitz tonight, so was a bit nervous. Was told it failed the stationary noise test by 1 db, but he was not going to defect it on that. 88 db at idle, and I suppose 95 db during the test (as the limit is 94 db I think). Suggested I have a recheck done in 12 months to see if it had got louder and take appropriate action if it had. The guy had called his mate over to hold the handheld tacho while he did the noise test. After the test he commented to his mate " and they were screaming eagles". I got the impression he expected them to fail big time. I've read somewhere that the new SE's are not as loud as the old ones