2007 softail.

Cut out on me in melb.. Im from Geelong, and left us stranded. Went through the obligatory tow truck pick up ( $240) and had the bike dropped at Brunswick Harley city.

Apparently it was a fuel pump relay. So they replaced it.

Bill - a staggering $ 140 !

At least it was fixed.

Two days later, she died on me again. Same thing. Go to start - no fuel pump coming in, so no start.

I dont want to go to the dealers in Geelong just yet. They've quoted $285 for a new fuel pump if that's necessary, and want $110 per hour to search around and find the problem.

 

This freakin fuel pump is gpoing to cost me around a grand to get sorted in the end.

Any thoughts on independant Harley workshops around Geelong would be appreciated, or any ideas of what the prob could be.

I was told by a mechanic that the actual fuel pump could shorting (?) or something and burning out the relay. So, in replacing fuel pump, it should solve the prob of burning out relays.

 

All your wisdom and advice is apprciated.

 

Gozz.

 

 

 

How many K's have you done? The filters are supposed to be replaced 40K intervals. If the filter has not be changed and you have done a few K's the filter could be blocked causing the pump to cut out on over pressure?. The pump may be stuffed. They are not to hard to replace though, just a very finnicky job. The replacement filters for a softail are $80 odd bucks and are a proprietry item.

You need to purchase a workshop manual for your sled, easy enough to do on the net, procure a CD aproximatley $25-$30 not a hard copy from HD about $200 plus last time I inquired.
This will allow you to methodically check the particular electrical circuit by process of elimination, all the necessary steps are included in the trouble shooting section.
Having said that the fuel filter in the tank is a good starting point along with relevant fuses/relays.
Another tip is to see if one of the trouble codes comes up, this is easy enough to do, the instructions for this are in your Owners Manual, as a matter of fact the dealer would have done this when you dropped your bike off to him, so he may still have a record of this, once again if you do have a trouble code then you have a reference point to commence the process of elimination.
This will cost you time but minimal money outlay, good luck.

Paul

How about a update Gozzledock, What was the outcome?

I have the manuals.

Been looking through, and it looks a bit finnicky to do but I might have a go.

If its something electrical thats sort of where Im stuffed. And o course the dealers can spend hours looking for it too at 110 per hour, and one never knows just how hard they look in that first couple hrs so I'll keep looking through the manual and sus it out.

It does seem that the fuel pump is the problem and that for some reason its burning the relay out. Fuses are all fine.

 

I was quoted $200 + back in 2009 by Frasers in Perth, I have not made an inquiry since then of course as I went in another direction. Thanks for posting the new prices, my preference is for the CD as for convenience and easy enough to print off pages for relevant sections, can upload to the new phones and take with you, its all good.

Gozzlebock,

Have you checked the trouble codes? a co related electrical circuit may be the offendy, I have just got my electrical diagrams out and although your bike is 07 and mine is 09 (both FXST) they should not be to far apart,
check; grounding wire from pump
connection for pump (mine is a 141A & B)
Fuel gauge connection (117A & B)
Speedo connection (39A & B)
check for continuity at the ECM (78A & B) you wont be able to check for current as your pump doesnt run?
Now looking at this, fuel pump circuit is attached to (after the 15 amp fuse) fuel injectors (84) and (85), ignition coil (83) and also the ECM.

I am sure that a Trouble Code will be attached to something here, if you have a spike somewhere it will show.

hope this helps,

Paul

I also forgot to mention that the relay is attached to;
right hand control connection (22)
battery(ECM coonector)

This relay appears to be fuel stem relay and not a dedicated fuel pump relay. So every chance that it could be something other then the fuel pump direct.

Paul

Thanks Heaps Paul.
But, forgive my ignorance, I'm no mechanic. How do I check the codes?

This what I use now and then, although I have not had a trouble code come up as I have not had any issues outside of lack of knowledge with TTS, but every one really needs to know how to perform this, it can potentially save you a lot of money.

I would suggest that you read section 2 of the "Electrical Section" of the workshop manual you have, I know it will appear daunting but the beauty of this is that it will show through the flow charts a simple process to eliminate the non related components of the electrical system and narrow the search to the culprit.

Also this is the initial test, there are others but this is your best starting point.

Paul

Check the earth cable from the battery to the gearbox I think you may have a corrosion or a lose connection problem at the gearbox end.

id go with hogbag on this,id bet its an earth issue as well, you will find about 4 earth wires on your bike,not counting the ones to ( power),all it takes is a loose conection to blow relays,id be very suprised if it was the fuel pump causing it to blow,firstly,,look for the simple possibles ,take your seat off,spend an hour finding the mounting points where the wires (usually bolted to the fender,starter,frame tabs,) move the wire left to right not up and down, if you find one thats even a bit loosish it could be it!, but even if you dont find a loose one undo them all one at a time spray with WD-40 making sure its clean before you do it back up, DO IT!! dont pay the shop to do that for you, cause thats the first thing they would do....Also if you have had the bike for a while you probably know the sound it should make when you turn the ignition to on,you can here the fuel pump (prime) if its doesnt sound right to you a bit slow or strugling to prime it will be getting ready to blow another relay,keep a spare with you they are under $20...l could keep typing but ive had it..good luck..

Thanks heaps fellas for the excellent help and feedback.
Relay went again. Got it picked up and into Peter Stevens in Geelong. It was a blown fuse they say. I checked the fuses carefully before it left. Maybe I missed it, but I know a blown fuse when I see it.
Anyhow, it seems that it must just be a wire shorting as has been suggested. I will go through it. In the meantime, here's to carrying a spare fuse, and a spare relay at all times! Its only done 30000k and I dont expect this but anyhow its time to find the gremlin.
Thankyou again.
Gozz.