Cams in = Shit Eating Grin!!!

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  • Ando
    Ando
    12 years ago
    Mate send an SOS out to see if someone close can run through the proccess with you.
    It is quite easy just hard to explain typing over the net

    but plug your laptop to the bike open data master and choose cam data run, go for a ride collect the data and read the log
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago

     Thanks Hilly,

     
    Yeah - I get the steps involved, it's just performing those steps. 
     
    So reading through the TTS manual about cam tuning... there is this...
     
    IVC data is recorded with a stationary bike under load on a dyno
     
    FARKING so much bullshit to absorb on that manual - it's a mid fuck!!
     
    I had every intention of doing it today, but I reckon that aint going to happen.  There is just too much to get my head around.  It's easy to say set cam ivo event  But actually understanding exactly how to do that is the problem.
  • KiwiRob
    KiwiRob
    12 years ago
    Just worry about VTuning first mate. Once you get the hang of that & you've got a descent map, you can tinker with the timing & other features latter. Of coarse you'll have to VTune again after adjusting the other tables. Me being a bit slow, it slowly sunk in after a while. - Rob
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago
    Thanks Lads,

    OK. I am going to go and do a V-Tune first and not worry about the cams. I have a step by step guid printed and if I can just get my old laptop setup with TTS, I will be off. I will come back and let you know where I am at soon.

    Cheers
    Mongrel
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago
    Quick question lads - What does the bike have stock? The TTS maps talk of 25-degree injectors??
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago

     Ok boys I just got back from a vtune sessions - Hmmm!!!

    I did two runs.  First one was about 30 minutes long, and the second about 20.  I don't know if I got enough data.

     

    Also - I have attached a couple pics because I am a bit confused.  You can see the the image with all the white blank squares - that is the print out.  But when I go to actually extend the rows as per the manual, they are all full!!  WTF??

     

    Anyways... I will do another run again during the week and try again.

     

     



  • Ando
    Ando
    12 years ago
    Ye mate looks like your onto it

    what it says is ya have a big percentage differences between data gathered and original map

    idea is to get the percentage changes to a minimal and then you have your VE'S set

    few more runs yet
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago
    Thanks hilly

    Yeah man. If you can pm me your email address I will shoot you through the files.

    I tried to ride as I normally would as stated in the manual.

    I can send you both of the run data if you like.

    Cheers
    Mongrel.
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago

     Well... I am just back after dropping in a Map that Hilly "massaged" for me and I can tell you it made a HUGE difference.

    Basically it is a blended map of my first 2 V-Tunes and the throttle response is awesome!  I was always cautious when say going around a roundabout as the bike would be twitchy!!   As in - from zero throttle to a little bit of throttle was jerky.  So I would feather the clutch!!  No more!!  The throttle response is now SO smooth, it feels like a different bike.


    THANKS HILLY!!  You rock!  :)

    Cheers

    Mongrel

  • ==ShaDoW==
    ==ShaDoW==
    12 years ago
    nice to see you having a win as well, great place tis forum I don't mind looking like a fool if I learn something new. TTS is pretty sweet setup I just love the fact I can tune my own rid without having to go back to the dealer all the time.

    Couple of more runs for me and mine will be sorted as well, different bike this afternoon after some tuning.
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago

    Yep! I look at this way. The stupid question is the one you don't ask! <img src=" border="0" src="/DesktopModules/NTForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif" />

    Sometimes it still surprises me that complete strangers go out of their way for each other.  Restores my faith (if only a little) in humanity!!  :)

  • pauly
    pauly
    12 years ago

     Hahah.. mongrel - well done.. I recently did the same thing and your video brought the feeling on the first start right back to me :-)

    Pauly 

  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago
    Hey Pauly... Man... I was shitting combuster bricks pushing that button. But the feeling when it fired up and idled like a fat chick at pavlova party, I was fucking stocked!!!

    Even happier now that I am starting to dial a tune in. The pickup is SO much better and the throttle so much smoother. :)
  • ==ShaDoW==
    ==ShaDoW==
    12 years ago
    I wish I was at the video stage I am still trying to work though all the issues, oh well one day at a time.
  • Ando
    Ando
    12 years ago

    Mongrel here is a link to a 96ci with the 57H dyno sheet

    http://waharleyriders.myfreeforum.org/sutra3910.php#3910

    I have just finished my mates Fatty Low with the 57s and decked heads to 82cc, 1.9 intake and .030" head gasket and without any tuning is quiet impressive, comes on early and pulls a long way, gets to the rev limiter a lot quicker

    I might get it on for a power run will see what happens

  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    12 years ago
    So Ando... Call me stupid,

    But there are 2 red lines on the dyno chart - How the hell do I read that shit!! LOL!!
  • Ando
    Ando
    12 years ago
    The Blue lines are the the before the cam install

    The red after the cam install
    the red line tha peaks early and die's is the torque the red line that keeps building is the HP

    + the results are written in the sheet
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