Twin disk, make much difference?

  • Retroman
    Retroman
    12 years ago
    It's a hugely expensive task on any single disk Harley

    Another caliper / hose / master cylinder / lower fork leg / etc etc PLUS labour to do it if you don't do it yourself

    That's why it's rarely ever done. IT CAN BE DONE WITH SECOND HAND PARTS FROM A US DRESSER MAYBE ?

    Investigate a 6 piston bolt on caliper kit instead if you're that kinky for it. MUCH BETTER WAY TO GO !!

    PS A mate of mine fitted twin discs to a 2001 Deuce 10 years ago, and it was overbraked in the extreme

    Locked up the 21 inch front IN THE DRY and went arse over tit up the road , horrendous scraping damage as you can imagine

    Re-bult it as a 19 incher as a result EVEN MORE MONEY!!
  • TJU
    TJU
    12 years ago
    Hey guys , i was thinking of going down the twin disk route myself ... glad i read this thread ... would P&M`s 6 spotters be the best out of the bunch when staying with the single disk set up ... 07 / 08 softail ... and how do Dragways or VPM`s Attatude brands stack up or are there other reliable easy to access items to be found .

    Thanks guys ... Tim .
  • Taffymarsden
    Taffymarsden
    12 years ago

     As always, good advice Chopa.

    At moderate speeds like 60 ks I have tried locking up the front of my 05 fatboy boy just for practice but have never been able to do it so I reckon it's not the best. Under hard braking it also starts tracking poorly - that is it gets a bit unstable so I back off. Maybe that's why I've never locked it up. Comments? Maybe time to get someone to take a look at it.

  • wayco
    wayco
    12 years ago
    For my 2 bobs worth -I have a 07 Deuce to which I have fitted CVO duel disk fork legs, 08 vrod master cylinder, calipers, front wheel & floating discs-all matched parts & lyndal red pads & braided lines -all engineer approved.
    As the bike has a 120 x 19 front tyre there is plenty of contact patch-the bike handles & stop great.I only now have to fix the rear suspension & it will be spot on.
    I think Chopa's ( Wayne) comments are spot on .
    I believe brake pads can improve braking for little $$ out lay,but if that doesn't do it, then I guess you are up for either caliper /disk up grade or twin setup-$$ will help with the decision.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    12 years ago
    TO wayco

    Sounds like a good job you've done, but you'd have wanted to source the parts " young-used" in the states from US ebay I would hope !

    It would have been a hugely expensive task otherwise !

    My mate had spent a FORTUNE on his Deuce and that was in the early 2000's.

    For what it's worth he's still got the bike, I serviced and tuned it 5 months back. Front brake was well "soft" but it pulled up AOK and I put that down to the master cylinder prolly still being the single disk one even after all those years !!
  • wayco
    wayco
    12 years ago
    Retroman,
    yes all parts were Ebay-some us & some aus-as a guide wheel -stainless spoked with discs Floating-powder coated black with tyre -$500,calipers X 2 $200 ,Fork leg -OEM about $300 ,master cylinder about $100 ,braided lines -$220-all up about $1,300.
    There were pics of the bike on the forum -I'm disabled so have leg up landing gear ,left & right side rear brake pedals,pingle shifter & engineers report -based on harley multi fit program-no aftermarket so no issues with compliance or roadworthy.
    Took a good 6 months of acquiring parts & was lucky that our $$ was good.
    I was able to give the engineer all HD part numbers which makes it plug & play-all bolt on.
    If you get a chance just check the size which is cast in on the switch side of the M/cylinder should be 11/16 for twin or 9/16 for single .Brembo -v/rod & dresser -are actual 5/8 in between the Nissan sizes.
    Mine has heaps of feel & haven't had to use it "anger" so i don't know how it will react ,but based on performance to date I'm extremely happy & believe it was money well spent.
  • Captain Hook
    Captain Hook
    11 years ago

    Second hand twin disc sliders are about $100 a pair in good nick, stay with the 41 mm units as the big tourers also use them so they are plenty strong enough and parts are easy to get from others swapping to chrome stuff. Second hand R.H. Harley brake calipers are about $80-100 in good nick. Check your front wheel to see if it will take twin discs as some do and just have a cover or chome bolts in there. Put some intiminators in when you have the forks off (its an easy job) which will improve the handling a lot and reduce the brake dive a lot as well. If its got a 21 inch front then my advice is to sell it and fit a 19, 17 or 16 for better braking and handling, there are good second hand ones around, so swapping over is not that expensive if you sell the old one. The Intiminators will lift the front just a bit and keep the same ride height as before with the slightly smaller diameter front wheel. The 16's and 19's have close to the same rolling diameter (the 16 inch front wheel works well, the 17's have a bigger chioce of tyres), just do a check on an online tyre spec site it will tell you to the mm what the diameter is. You will need twin dics brake lines and be careful as some are for ABS fitted bikes, the hose is much longer going to the ABS unit. New or good second hand front discs from a tourer will fit, as will the master cylinder. Check if the disc is a 11.5 or a 11.8. Wilwood make good brake discs for Harleys if you want new. The 11.8's are more for the Harley Brembo calipers and the 11.5's are more for the standard Harley calipers. Don't take too much notice of bikes flipping with twin discs being fitted, if it was that bad they'd be banned which is not the case. I can't figure out why someone hasn't sued Harley for selling such a heavy bike with poor brakes and handling, after all they come from the land of the lawyers. Do a few practice stops every now and again, then you will know what to do when you have to panic stop without having time to think. Twin discs and Intiminators will have you thinking your riding a different bike and enjoying your riding a lot more. I've done it and if I bought another Harley with a single disc front end, it would be the first thing I would do to it before even thinking of anything else, even if it was a new bike.

    The cheap easy option is to just fit Lyndall pads.

    (edit in)It's not expensive to put twin disc's on and not that hard to do. Personally I'd go twin disc if you like speed. All the Jap, European, British and anyone else who builds bikes use them on anything that can go fast. Stay with a single disc if looks and slow are for you. From some of the previous posts I'd be careful about who is in front or behind in a group of bikes, if they are going to flip a Harley or don't have the ability to stop it in time it could be a problem. Could end up dodging a flipping bike or being run over from behind by someone who doesn't have the ability to stop very well. It gives me scary pictures like a bunch of push bikes having a crash but at higher speed and with heavier machinery.  

  • mickle
    mickle
    11 years ago

    I went the Lyndal pads and braided lines and very happy.