Recently, I had a chat with a couple of electronic wizz kids about how who could design and get manufactered, bike tracking technology with the following features, and if it would even be possible.

Design a small sender/receiver unit connected directly to bike battery,(for softail, tucked down betwwen battery and oil tank) that sends a gps signal to a receiver unit at home. Perhaps a highly encripted signal sent every 30 seconds to home unit and a return signal sent back to bike. maybe a rotating frequency encripted signal, Then use software to transfer gps coordites to a map reference 

A fob style unit that deactivates the system when on the bike but activates when off the bike. The system would need to operate as a live system IE fail safe. EG: If your off the bike, fob activates gps sender, if home unit does mot receive signal momentarily, home unit goes into caution mode then if no signal in next 30 secs, home unit rings or sms your mobile, The idea is the home unit would record gps coords every 30 secs if someone decides they need your bike more than you do. If the fob battery or bike battery is going a bit flat or at a predetirmed voltage, sends a seperate signal to home unit that rings u to warn.

I was thinking that if you got off bike and fob uint didnot activate gps sender, Say a faulty fob, An interlock built in to sender unit would start gps when ignition off.

The home unit to record all signals for say 7 days wether in alarm mode or not.The fob unit to have leds that bilink to tell you home unit is receiving and sending signals.

I know its not perfect and there might be problems when in underground carparks, ect. But i woulnot have a clue what new or better signal tecnology is available that might work in none line of sight to gps sattlelights as technology is progressing at light speed anyway.

Ive looked at some car units but there devices are bulky and unsuitable for bikes.

The idea is for the system that rings you when something not right and tracks bike 

The wizz kids not to sure, said itd cost squillions, but i dont think so. Electronics would be cheap but programming might cost.

If the unit was 500 or more dollars, cheap compared to what the average rider spends on buying bike let alone acc. any ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sounds like a good idea

or you could hard wire a trackable mobile phone in the same spot, and if the bike is stolen, ring the number (phone on silent) phone set to auto answer.
just a thought

 See what your saying but for me, ide want the system to always be live and in operating mode particularly if your away for a few days or weeks and bike at home .

for your system to work it would have to have the capability to switch between two bands like an Ipad or Iphone, when home use a WiFi system bu when away, the 3G system.
a small transmitter would have limited range, but the 3G would be at a cost (cheaper as data) but still a cost. to offset it would have to have an initial alarm then intermittent location transmissions.

any fee to recover the bike would be worth it, or at the least, catch who stole it, and it could also decrease your insurance having it

 

Hey Mick, have a gander at some of the trackers here, www.gadgetbuy.com.au/index.php

 

Some of them already have a few of the features that you mention, and, I'm sure that the whiz kids could modify what's there to suit your needs.

 

I've got a couple of these units in use and have found that the better quality ones work really well so long as they are in range of the 3G network.

 

Most of them already have at least two remote triggering/ relay circuits inbuilt, so adapting those circuits to other applications would be easy as pie.

 

The crowd that I linked above probably aren't the cheapest compared to what's available on fleabay, but they're Aussie and only sell the better quality units.

Insurance companies love em and most offer good discounts on premiums if fitted to the insured vehicle, specially motorcycles.

 

The ones that are capable of sending not only location coordinates, but URL's of location on Google Maps make it too easy to know where the unit is in real time.

The best SIM cards that I've come across are the 12 month pre-paid jobbies from Telstra, best coverage and cost $60.00 a year to run.

 

Hope ya can get some ideas and this helps.

Thanks rider
appreciate info

 There are units like this already out there - ok - they might not do exactly what you want, but this one comes close...

 

http://www.cartrackingdevices.net/department/tramigo-t22-moto-tracker/

The have an Aussie distributor too!    http://trackstick.com.au/t22-motorcycle-and-light-vehicle-tracking-device-p-199.html

 

Key Features Include:

• In-built Motion-Sensor notifies you instantly in case your bike is harassed
• Check location of your motorbike with SMS
• Receive useful reports such as speed, trip or zone crossings
• Use local language commands on any mobile phone or PC
• No monthly fees, location information with local GPS powered TLD Landmarks
• Microphone for listening to the Moto’s surroundings
• In-built back-up battery and emergency phone
• Free M1 Move Smart Phone software for easier tracking
• M1 Fleet PC software for fleet owners
• Shut Down Engine, Ignition Sensing and other IO features

thanks for the info mongrel
One thing i was thinking about was some sort of unit that was semi- independent of the mobile phone network,
IE: the signal between bike and home unit may operate on telstra irridium sattlelight phone network that is 100% australia coverage, From home unit then to mobile phone, but if mobile out of range, at least home unit still recording, This system and one from your info might be a good system
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Yeah cool. I guess it depends how much you value your bike.

I love my bike, but if they take, they take it. I will buy a new one. LOL!!

Cheers
Mongrel

I understand your passion mick44, but if you're going to go to such extremes, then insurance would be the best option.
To manufacture a unit you describe would probably not be too expensive. The r&d, protecting the intellectual property and support would send you broke.
Iridium network = big bucks... Interlocking devices always creates problems.
In addition, battery life is always a headache for advanced feature set technology.

You would just need to pay an Indian programmer to write the software as many smartphone devices can use the 2G/3G phone and satellite/GPS. They also have motion sensors.
Hardwire the phone/charger/power to your bikes electrical system. Pretty sure this has already been done.
Don't know about "shut down" though. Could be doable with canbus bikes, Steve Cole would know what is invovled.