Had no problems with my shorty's being fitted from new at Perth harley (Cannington), They just made me sign a waiver stating that I knew the pipes were illegal.
Just clocked 1600kms and still loving it, although trying hard to avoid the fuzz!!
Anyone know of black heat shields for stock 883 sporty exhaust just in case though? Dont like the chrome!!!
Changed out the standard baffles on my V&H Bigshots Staggered this morning. I borrowed the decibel meter from work so I could do before and after readings. The results were Standard baffles = 94 to 95db No baffles = 95db Quiet baffles = 93.5 to 93.8db Test was done as per reg with meter 500mm from exhaust and at 45 degrees to it. 2500RPM engine speed. Overall loudness doesnt seem much different but it does seem less raspy when given a squirt and a bit deeper. Decel popping seems a lessened also but i havent been for a decent ride yet. Overall I would say it probably would sound slightly less offensive to those without an ear for the magic tune of a V-twin. BDA
Loud pipes save lives. Indeed, brother. Indeed...
At the same time, loud pipes cause dickheads to show how dickheady they can be (as Christo pointed out) which is where the coppers and the average punters get the shits.
I've read up on it in Qld, dunno how it works and tbh I dunno where it is atm but Harleys have certan dB limits as do all vehichles. It has to measured at certain angles from the exhaust outlet and certain distances etc etc etc, but also has to be read at 2000rpm. There is a chart here somewhere I ran across showing most "average" models of Harleys and their "average" maximum tolerable sound level. Most Harleys dont have a tacho. 2k rpm = what??
Even if it has a tacho, there is also a provision that says something like "under heavy acceleration the sound will be greater than the requirements" meaning, if you are going nuts at the lights, you should be ok as long as at 2k rpm you are within the right levels given the correct measuring techniques...
When I bought my little Iron, I got the V&H shorties, SE cleaner and tuner and got the dealer to make it all work nicely together and all I had to do was sign a little form saying I only had it modded for "track use" and not for general transport on Qld roads. If I get pinged I'll have to get the exhaust quieter or drop the stockies on it but really, they have to also jump through hoops to prove that it is over the limit enough to get around the "heavy acceleration" clause.
Really, if a copper pulls you up and defects you, all you need to do is get the Transport Department (or whateverthefuck it is called in your state) to tick off that it is within reason. Watch out for how they measure it, all the tech documents are published somewhere on the .gov.au sites in your state and most fuckers holding the clipboard and pen can't be arsed actually reading it let alone following it with all the changes.
I got pulled up a few weeks ago when they bocked off the street coz some dickhead bashed some other dickead and I ended up with 3 coppers talking about my bike, as in: nice mirrors mate, really looks the part (they are technically too small according to regulation), nice black exhaust, really gets the "Harley" sound out mate (technically too loud) and also the old 'how old is she? is that a NEW one?' when it's a last year model. WAIT WUT? 3 coppers and they were more interested in the bike rather than if it is legal which they SHOULD have pinged me for. Oh, that could be because I don't ride it like a dickhead, I say "g'day" to the coppers, don't give em lip and nod and agree and wave em goodbye when we're done.
I may have just got lucky, but I know too many people that bitch about getting pinged when they act like a dickhead and then act like a moron once they get pulled up!
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES! (just don't be a dickhead when you have em)
Cheers,
Shred.
I fitted the big city thunder baffles and the original V&H baffles into my bigshots, sound is a little deeper, to the bike to Kelmscott MVR and had the noise level tested, massive fail still way too loud. Save your money guys it didnt reduce the noise any where near enough.
QQ,s
put a meter on my vance +hines big raduis 2 into 2 95 db at idle 110 at 3000 rpm ,did a test on mates s+s slip ons 109 at idle 125 db at 3000 rpm then a final test on a street glyde with vance +hines ovals 107 db at idle 120.7 at 3000 rpm .where all fucked no way will any after market pipe get over the pits with out a lot of work.
tightly rolled chicken wire is another way of reducing noise .... probably aslo lasts a bit longer than a scourer
you just lose a bit of top end ... depending on how much you stuff in the pipe .
you'll never get a proper result from a phone.
All you'll get is this one is louder than that one. You won't get an actual number you can rely on.
This one is only $30.00, and it works.