Plug and Play Tuner for Stage 1 upgrade

  • markwoumla
    markwoumla
    13 years ago

    Hi, Checked out a number of threads regarding my topic , but still a little confused.  I have a 2009 Electra Glide Standard. Stage 1 update ( fuelmoto Jackpot mufflers, and SE heavy breather A/C. This is as far as I am going to go on add on's. I live 350 km from the closet dyno workshop.  Comments and advice on the most reliable Plug and Play tuner that will perform well on my bike.  What I read about the Plug and Play tuner's, is that they come calibrated to your paticular bike with your modifications taken into consideration  (Stage 1 in my case) .  Then install the wiring, etc,  and bingo , thats it.  If you need to change the pots to fine tune things , a small screwdriver, and your done.  Is it all that simple?  If it is , this is all I think I  need .  I have read that if you really want to know if the bike is performing as it should , you would need to get a dyno. If that was the case , would I have to buy another piece of equipment so the dyno can be done?   Or would I , should I be satisfied with the results from the Plug and Play turner?  Thanks Mark. 

  • Yositime
    Yositime
    13 years ago
    Plenty of riders are happy with add on name brand modules once you get by the PITA of installing them, not so much "plug and play" . The more sophisticated the better, but if all you are looking for is power and throttle response, you should be satisfied with any of them. You pretty much get what you pay for and they all suffer from the same kind of reliability problems. As you have read, no canned map is going to be optimum for your bike, especially off throttle, and your satisfaction is subjective. Many of these modules defeat the O2 sensors and the closed loop capability and those street advantages you paid for.

    Anyway you can find plenty of satisfied customers for any named brand module.
  • Gonads
    Gonads
    13 years ago
    Wouldn't say the add on's like the dobeck and big joes are a PITA to install. Pretty bloody simple actually. Units suffering from reliability issues, is at times, also a bit of conjector from a lot of people. Infomation like that only adds to peoples confusion.

    As hilly said, give big joes a ring. Lots of people running/have run his unit here with out any problems, me included.
  • Yositime
    Yositime
    13 years ago

    I should have mentioned it is more of a PITA on the dyna where there is little spare space, but in all cases there may be seats and covers to pull, connectors to disengage and components to add which leads to a risk of pushed pins and moister intrusion. Not saying that more than a few experience these, but for those that do it is more than a PITA, and there are enough that the issue cannot be dismissed as conjecture. Not saying that manufactures and salesmen of these units emphasis the PITA of using a computer or laptop to tune, but conveniently don't mention the harware install and potential reliability isues presented by the modules. 

    When many folks pull their add on modules and the bike now runs, thats not much of a conjecture. Although most are happy and have good results, these are features typically left out of marketing literature, and often unknown to the buyer for consideration.

  • HogBag
    HogBag
    13 years ago
    Depends on what your after with a tuner. For me it was a heat issue that gave me the shits with my bike because after I fitted the temp gauge I seen my engine temp around 270 degrees. I fitted a cooler that helped drop the temps down to 240 but the biggest drop in temp was having the TTS tuner fitted. My bike now runs around 180 to 200 degrees winter and summer so just adding fuel is a hit and miss option but nothing will beat a decent tuner on the bike.