Kuryakyn hypercharger installation

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  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

     Just bought a kuryakyn hypercharger air filter and I'm gona install it myself. I'm pretty mechanically minded I think and feel  confident in fitting it. I was wondering if there is anything I need to know that's not on the instructions. Like does the motor need re jetting or anything similar. By the way I have a 2011 heritage. Thanks in advance.

  • Retroman
    Retroman
    12 years ago

    "Re-jetting" a 2011 EFI Heritage ?

    Fuck you better read the fitting "destructions" mate...

    EFI remapping in the ECM is the "terminology" you're after mate..

    And yes, prolly a good idea to retune ( Re-map ) the ECM, there are various means to do so..All cost moolah tho ' !!

  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

     Sorry for not being perfect but Yeh I know it's fuel injected, I just didn't know what the correct terminology was. But thanks to you I do now.

  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

     I hear ya badcooky that's what most of the mates are sayin. Thanks.

  • GTEEZ
    GTEEZ
    12 years ago

    On topic question.

    Do you need to oil the filter element? I don't recall the instructions saying to but other have said it should be done..

    GTEEZ

  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

     Thanks Jim. I'm still keen to go on one of these wednesday rides with ya. Don't normally finish till after 6 tho so makes its hard. Your house number is 4 from memory. Shit I hope ive got the right Jim?

  • AJ56
    AJ56
    12 years ago
    The filter should come pre-oiled. One thing to keep a look on with the Hyper charger is the vacum hose that controls the butterflys. The hose tends to corrode quickly due to being under the tank, after about 12 months you will find that the hose has rotted through where it connects to the EFI body.

    Also the instructions don't show you how to pull the unit apart to service the Air Filter. Pretty easy though once you look at the unit itself.

    If you have had a tune due to pipes then you shouldn't need a remap. If you haven't remapped the ECU yet then you will need to have the ECU remapped with another Map due to running leaner than normal. Don't leave for to long as you Will casue damage to the motor in the long run.
  • AJ56
    AJ56
    12 years ago
    Hopefully they did remap for you. If not you will know when you run the bike as she will start to backfire etc on decel. You could ask them if they did put another map in just to be on the safe side. If not I would look at getting a remap ASAP once you have the Hyper on. If you are going to do anything else I would look at an after market Tuner. That way you will save your self a heap of money. There are plenty around and all do what you need.
  • AJ56
    AJ56
    12 years ago
    Yes. There are plenty of them about, it all depends on what you want to be able to do. Some of the people on here use the HD Tuner, then there is the TTS, Cobra, some of them are piggy back systems, and other alter the internal settings on the ECU. It all depends on what you are after. I use the TTS, along with a heap of other blokes. Have a look in the EFI section.

    Whenever you do any changes to your bike ie: Pipes, air filter cams, big bore change your drive artion etc, you will need to remap the ECU to compensate for the changes, If you take it to the bike shop every time it is going to cost you about 300 bucks a time, spens a little more than that and do your own changes. And get you know your bike a bit better in the process.

    What ever road you decide to go down if you do get your own tuner there is plenty of help on here to get you started.
  • Retroman
    Retroman
    12 years ago
    Harley City will not have re-mapped your bike, as the stock ECM can "cope" with muffler changes alone.

    That's basically because "everyone does it ". The stock ECM has a "self learning / adjustment " ability to a certain extent.

    Now in the US the dealer can download a stage 1 MAP for you as a one off, but not here in Australia.

    Here you have to fit up a tuner to adjust your ECM , and each Harley tuner "marries" the first bike connected to it.

    If you free up the air flow into the motor as well you may run the risk of exceeding the self adjustment parameters of the ECM.

    Having said that a good mate of mine bought a 103 Ultra in Florida with upgraded air and freeflow exhaust with no tuner, and rode it 10,000 miles or 16,000 K's across the states to LA and again over the Nullarbor to Perth . Bike ran well enough.

    Once here in Perth I fitted up a TTS tuner for him and used free Kuryakyn TTS Calibrations to get it running even better.Bike is quite fast now !!

    Didn't mean to sound condescending earlier mate, sorry if it came across that way !
  • V2Evo96
    V2Evo96
    12 years ago
    Well opinions are like you know what so here's my 10 cents worth:

    I would Install the H'charger and go for a ride to get the bike warmed up -- say 30-45 minutes or so. Pull the plugs and look at the insulators and +and - tips. If the plug insulators are very light tan, slightly grey or even greyish white and there is no erosion anywhere and the plugs look 'normal' you won't be doing any damage to the engine. Plugs read differently these days due to fuel blends and the days of the "tan/brown" insulator color is gone, generally replaced by grey shades.

    If you do the change over and don't like the way it performs buy a simple fuel tuner-- The top end unit by Cobra has a pretty good name and is plug and play. If your going to do cams in the future I would spring for a TTS and forgo the Cobra. If you only change exhaust and intake stick with the Cobra.

    Others may differ with this take and that's fine - just keeping it simple.
  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago
    That's very helpful advice V2 and it's appreciated. But I have since rang Harley city and Chris has told me he installed a high flow aircleaner and has done the appropriate adjustments before I picked it up. Go figure, I didn't even remember requesting it. Maybe it's something they do when they replace the stock pipes. He also stated that putting the hyper on won't change the performance since the high flow filter has been put on. Shit happens, the hyper will at least look good.
  • AJ56
    AJ56
    12 years ago
    When you take off the Air Cleaners let us know what sort of AC he put in? I would be interested as they cost a bit of money. And don't get rid of it as you might want to change back in the future.
  • AJ56
    AJ56
    12 years ago

     

  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

    I'll definately let you know and thanks again AJ. He actually told me that I paid around $600 for the total conversion. It was only around 15 months ago, but for the life of me I can't recall them saying they were gona put it in. As I said, maybe its something they normally do when taking off the stock pipes.

  • Retroman
    Retroman
    12 years ago
    $600 would cover slip on mufflers, but not a high flow air filter and a race tuner as well !

    The SEPST tuner would be all of $600 on it's own.

    High flow filter would be $300 easy from an Aussie HD dealer.

    Unless it came as part of a "ride away package" for buying a 96 or something !
  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

     I actually bought a set of Vance and Hines pipes not slip ons and I'm sure I paid for them separately. If I go rumaging through my receipts I'm sure it would clarify things but I just can't be fucked at the moment.

  • matho1961
    matho1961
    12 years ago

     Well I installed it yesterday. The instructions were very unclear but with a bit of trial and error I understood what needed to be done. My metric and imperial allen keys didn't suit any of the screws (maybe their AF or something) so i had to improvise. As for the filter I took out, it actually was larger than the hyper one I put in. All in all it looks fantastic with no back firing or anything. Performance wise seemed to be no different.

  • AJ56
    AJ56
    12 years ago
    Matho was the filter element you took out paper type or a cloth type media? If it is not back firing it looks like you bike was remapped at the shop. See how it runs of the next couple of weeks then pull the plugs and check them out
  • GGUser455
    GGUser455
    2 years ago
    Hi all, I'm new to this group, thought you might help me with following:
    Just bought a 2nd hand Hypercharger from Kuryakyn, to see if I can assemble it like in one bike I saw in Faro2022 biker rally this year. The filter was positioned horizonatlly instead of vertical assemble. Check picture. Any idea how/ where to find the type of tube for that extension?
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