Hello Lads,

As mentioned in another thread, She whom must be obyed has give me the nod to throw some cash at the Fatty... So one of the upgrades is a set of cams.

After much reading, it looks like I will setlle on the SE204s (Unless you have better ideas)

The info I need is... What else do I need?  I know I am going to need new pushrods, and from what I have the adjustables are the way to go.  I will be doing the install myself, so I just want to make sure I order everything I need so I don't get stuck half way through the build.

Thanks lads.

Mongrel

Hmmm OK. So what you are saying is with the SE204s, I don't need to remove the push rods? This is a 2010 Fatboy, and will not be doing anything else to the donk. I just want to fatten up the idle, and get some low down grunt. Not interested in high end speed.

EDIT - I don't want to have to pull the tank and the rocker boxes too!  

Thanks Hilly! I have the TTS so not scared to work on the tuning.

What I really need to know is what other than the cams and rods do I need. I have read about bearings, seals etc etc etc. Is there a kit or the like?

So this is weird...

The kit for the adjustables is... http://www.jpcycles.com/product/432-650

But the quickie rods on their own are about the same price http://www.jpcycles.com/product/420-307

From what I have seen, the quickies are easier to get in - dont habe to remove the Tappit Cover.  I wonder why they don't sell them in a kit.  

I have the workshop manual if that's what you mean

Thanks lads!!

Pity they don't seem to sell the Quicky Rods in a kit. Fuckit! I might just take the tappet covers off and save another 200 bucks.

Hi mate,

I just changed cams your best bet is adjustable P/R dont go through the rockers its alot more work and the P/R are easy to adjust.

I bought Andrews cams TW37 and P/R at powersportsuperstore for about $500 next by a cam bearing tool with bearing at georges garage US

thats another $250.Read your workshop manual couple times, trick to this job for me was finding TDC jack the arse up and with a bro find TDC on

front and rear cylinders mark these on the timing gear face and take a pic.Start the job with the rear cyl at TDC pull everything out change bearings

 then install new cams in rear cyl TDC position.Install P/R for rear adjust to 20 flats then turn engine over till TDC front cyl install P/R.

Im also running a TTS and found a stock tune and its running sweet haven't had time to tune as yet.Hope this helps bro.

 

Glaz,

Thanks for the info.

Can I ask why you went the Andrews Cams. I am looking at the SE204s

I found this too... which will come in handy for sure...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5KvamRqCis

 Ok...  Thanks to Hilly and others this is what I have so far....

 

Cams = SE204 (unless someone convinces me otherwise)
Service Kit - 17045-99d for gaskets and O rings - Might get the FuelMoto one as it has the Torringtons in it.
Adjustable push rod kit - http://fuelmotousa.com/pushrods.htm
Torrington Inner bearings.

And I guess I need a couple of tools...

The bearing installer tool, and the crank locking tool, some loctite and assembly lube.\

 

Am I missing anything??

what you giving away Hilly?

Ando... Send me the one you have and I will see if it's the same. Probably is.

Send it to. John @ mongrelgear .com .au Just get rid of the spaces.

Cool! Does anyone have anything to share on cams. Mine is a stock 96 (not including pipes and air-kit) and I am looking at the SE204

Ando,

When you say a bit more lift - what do you mean?

EDIT - What I should have said is... what will the difference be??

Thanks boys,

One thing that I want to do away with is the god awful smooth idle. I know it may sound a bit petty, but a Harley (in my opinion) should not pur like a kitten. It should sound a bit pissed off - if you know what I mean. These EFI bikes just idle too smooth for me - BUT - If it ups the low down grunt, then thats great! I am not in for taking the speedo off the clock, so some low down pull would be great.

Having been through this excercise a few times I would recommend to Just swap out the cams to 204, geta cam kit and adjustable PRods and presto ya have a slightly lumpier motor with plenty of go...

The only tool required is a cam lock and torque wrench...Workshop manual is real handy as well...

Wouldn't worry about changing cam bearings and taking the rocker covers off either, partic if the motor has only a few K's on it...

Just my two bobs worth...

Bt

could go better but angus blahahahahaha

not bad cams the andrews 50 wat ya best of doin write everything wat ya want it to do an then do a list wat ya can afford ect an dont forget some work on the heads just touchin up the heads can do wonders on twinkies

216350   50H                 20/48 248 283 .510 .184             Stock Designed for easy installation in 95 inch motors with 
                                      54/18 252 287 .510 .168               stock heads and 9.5 to 9.8 CR. (2400 to 6000 RPM).

run 2 different spark plugs will give it a thump dump note lol 204 will be the cheapest way to go

Ahah!! Nice one! Run one spark plug would be better!! LOL!!

Yeah - I reckon the 204s might be it. That, and drop the idle speed slightly, and I am hoping it will do the trick!

Will wait for winter though - I am not sacrificing the warm weather - its been too fucking long as it is.

only couple hours to change fuck workin in the cold lol