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3 Degree rake triple trees, 2" over forks?

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  • Spero
    Spero
    13 years ago

    I'm after peoples personal experience with 3 degree rake triple trees & 2" over forks for a Softail. I've done plenty of research on this topic & found extremely varied results & opinions! I have a basic understanding of rake & trail & from the calculations i've done the trail for this setup on my bike is just under 4 which isn't ideal. I understand that this setup will affect my handling which i can live with as long as it's not unpredictable at low speed & dangerous at high speed... 

    The front end setup i'm looking at is a DNA conventional setup & i'm running standard diameter wheels & suspension height on the rear.

    Any bodies personal experience with this triple tree & fork length would be greatly appreciated...

     

  • walka
    walka
    13 years ago
    DNA are dont a good front End, and +2" with 3 deg is to high, Stock length legs is perfict for 3 Deg
  • Spero
    Spero
    13 years ago

    Cheers for the reply Walka, what brand of front end would you recommend? I'm working on a budget of about $2,000 - $2,500 for a full billet front end. I should of mentioned in my first post that from my calculations the front end specified will lift the bike 1" which i'm happy with.

  • walka
    walka
    13 years ago
    Give me a call 03 8405 9212, I have a few options and it will be about half of what your buget is
  • walka
    walka
    13 years ago
    Post a Photo, Badcooky
  • Spero
    Spero
    13 years ago

    Yeah i'd be keen to see a photo of your ride badcooky. I'll give you a call tomorrow walka & we can have a chat about what i'm after, cheers.

  • mootan
    mootan
    13 years ago

    Hey Spero i,d like to know how u ended up , i,m tossing around the same idea , (FXCST 1990 )  did walka help out ?

    cheers .

  • Spero
    Spero
    13 years ago

    Hey Mootan, I ended up going with the Attitude Stilleto front end, 5 degrees in the trees, 2" over forks from Walka (VPW). I got the front end plus brake caliper & billet headlight all for just under $1350 delivered, I think for that sort of money it would be difficult to beat!

    I'm stoked with how the bike handles, I think it's better than the stock set-up! The bike is solid (no wobbles) up to 150km's, cornnering is great too! It drops in a little quicker similar to a high radius tyre on a sports bike which I like. At very low speed (walking pace) the bike is slightly harder to keep in a straight line but certainly nothing to worry about,Ii find at that speed i've got one foot skimming the road anyway just to be on the safe side.

    I did find the front end was very soft so I changed the fork oil to Screamin Eagle Heavy fork oil, this improved the dampening to that of my stock front end. I also had a small leak out of the drain plug (cap head bolt), when I changed the oil I used some thread tape on the thread which solved this problem. I also had to put a 1" flat washer between the bearing dust cover & the bottom triple tree, the bottom triple tree was binding on the bottom of the steering neck because of the offset in the triple trees. I also had to machine a new axle as the front end has a 3/4" axle where my bike/front wheel has a 1" axle. Apart from maching a new axle the front end was a straight up bolt on job, easy!

    If you've got anything else that I might be able to shed some light on please let me know.

    Cheers, Spero..

     

     

     

  • mootan
    mootan
    13 years ago

    Thanks for the reply Spero , thats a a pretty dam good price from Walka , the bike looks great , any chance of a side on shot with the scoot in a vertical position. I would guess 2" with 5 degrees probably wouldn`t have lifted it  that much. How high  are ya risers on ya Burleighs  6"? (i did check out ya previous posts). Did u go for the  Plain or the Ball Mill trees .

    Thanks for ya time.

  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    13 years ago
    Im' on a Fatboy and am hoping to put the finishing touches on my 4 degree trees with 2 inch over, and will let you know how that goes! I used the HHI trees that allowed me to use my existing fork sliders.

    Should have it back together by Sunday arvo!
  • Spero
    Spero
    13 years ago

    No prob's. Yeah I was really happy with the price! For the money I think the front end is great quality! I did mean to measure how high my bike was before the install but I forgot, I noticed the bike being a little higher when I rode it so I dropped the rear end about 1/2" to compensate. It feels great on the road now.

    The trees are the standard ones that come with the front end, they're pretty chunky! 1/2" thicker than my standard trees.

    I went with 6" risers on my bars, it's a nice comfortable riding position.

    Here's a side view pic of my bike after the arse end has been dropped 1/2", not great quality but it's the only one I have.

    Hey Mongrel you'll have to put up a pic of your bike when you get your front end on.

  • mootan
    mootan
    13 years ago
    Yep that looks real nice Spero , thanks for the effort will definately be getting in touch with Walka , lookin forward to seein ya front end Mongrel.
    Cheers
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    13 years ago

    Hi Lads,


    Front end on and test ridden - WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!     I am loving the new look at the handling is great.  The only change I noticed was that it is a little lighter in the corners - as in - it wants to fall into the corner a little, which is fine, you just have to get use to it.  A roundabout for instance feels a lot different.

    No adverse affect at high speed either.  I hit 140 and no shakes.  Took my hands off the bar at 120 and even with the affect of decel the bars were solid!!

    SPERO - Did you do the Fall Away test?  I haven't.  I just nipped my neck up until there was no play, and locked it all down.  My new front end does not run a picnh bolt system.  The tubes screw directlty into the top tree.

    Anyways... here the before and afters.

    FWIW My arse was always lowered by a few inches - and didn't have to touch it.

     

    BEFORE

     

     

     

    AFTER

  • Spero
    Spero
    13 years ago

    Mongrel your bike looks awesome! The front end really sets it off! 

    I didn't bother with the fall away test either, I did the same as you & just tightened the neck up until there was no play. I did find I had to re-tighten it when I checked it about a week later, since then it's been perfect!

  • mootan
    mootan
    13 years ago
    nice 1 mongrel
  • CRUSTY
    CRUSTY
    13 years ago

     I like the new look of ya bike Mongrel ! You done well !

  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    13 years ago
    Thanks fellas! I am liking the new look.

    Cooky - I took the Corsair off because it was hitting my leg a bit and pissing me off. I like it because it was different to anything I had seen - and it may go back on one day.

    For now the MoFlow is doing a good job. :) But I do have a soft spot for the Corsair.
  • mootan
    mootan
    13 years ago
    would,ve pegs made any difference to how ya leg sat , mongrel!
  • the_mongrel
    the_mongrel
    13 years ago

     Hmm Never rode with the sock off!!  Fuck... now you have me thinking!!

     
    Dunno if pegs would make a difference Mootan!  It was not really the reach that was an issue, but if I was not careful and hit a bump wrong, my shin would slam the air kit, and it has a ridge that is a bit sharp I guess.
     
    This image should explain it.   I do still like it, and still have it, so it may go back on one day.
     
  • mootan
    mootan
    13 years ago
    ffs thats huge , i see what ya mean, bummer.
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