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Plan for 80mph motorway speed limit - UK

  • Uncle Ho
    Uncle Ho
    13 years ago

     

    I doubt that our nieve, money grabbing pollies would even consider such a move in Oz... there are lots of 110 zones that could easily be made 130km/h and still be safe as debated on a recent Australian TopGear show

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    Plan for 80mph motorway speed limit

    the M60 motorway near ManchesterAFP

    Drivers hitting 80mph on the motorway would no longer be breaking the law under plans by the transport secretary to help kick-start the economy.

    Philip Hammond has announced that the 70mph limit will be increased to 80mph by 2013, subject to a consultation period of several months.

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    Mr Hammond said on Thursday that Labour had carried out a “shortsighted and misguided war on the motorist”.

    “Britain’s roads should be the arteries of a healthy economy and cars are a vital lifeline for many,” he said. “Now it is time to put Britain back in the fast lane of global economies and look again at the motorway speed limit, which is nearly 50 years old and out of date thanks to huge advances in safety and motoring technology.”

    He said that the number of people killed on British roads had fallen by more than 75 per cent since 1965, when the 70mph limit was set.

    The decision could aid economic growth because it will allow people to get to meetings faster and cut delivery times, Mr Hammond argues. All ministers are under pressure to come up with ideas to foster economic recovery ahead of a “growth review” to be published in November. Concerns are growing that the economy is flatlining amid wider global financial uncertainty.

    Maximum speed limits in selected countries

    Germany – no upper limit but 81mph is recommended (130km/h)

    France – 81mph

    Italy – 93mph

    Spain – 75mph (120km/h) but limit temporarily cut to 68mph (110km/h) from 7 March to 30 June 2011 to save petrol

    Australia – 62mph to 68mph – varies by state

    Japan – 62mph

    USA – 65 to 75mph – varies by state

    * Recommended limit

    Source: UK Department for Transport

    Mr Hammond’s proposal was condemned by road safety campaigners and by Greenpeace, which said the move would “raise oil consumption and carbon emissions” at a time of increasing uncertainty in energy supply. Cars use significantly more fuel at higher speeds.

    “The government should be looking to reduce the number of deaths and injuries on our roads, not putting forward proposals which are likely to increase them,” said Ellen Booth of the campaign group Brake.

    Motoring groups gave a cautious response to the plans. Professor Stephen Glaister, director of the RAC Foundation, said: “Drivers travelling that 10mph quicker might reach their destination sooner, but will use about 20% more fuel and emit 20% more CO2. There is also likely to be a slight increase in road casualties. And what about enforcement? If police follow existing guidelines, many people could do 90mph before action is taken.

    “Before you change a speed limit, you have to know whether you are doing it for safety, economic or environmental reasons. Unfortunately not all of these are compatible.”

    Supporters of changing the limit, however, argue that the number of driving fatalities on motorways is a small fraction of the total, at 132 out of 2,222 in 2009.

    Research from the transport department suggests nearly half of cars exceeded the 70mph limit on motorways last year – with very few being prosecuted. Campaigners fear, however, that raising the limit to 80mph could lead to people driving even faster than at present.

    Mr Hammond will argue that the economic impact of raising the limit should be set against other issues such as safety. He will demand a “rigorous cost benefit analysis of speed limits” to weigh these factors against each other.

    The speed limit of 60mph on motorways for larger lorries above 7.5 tonnes will remain in force.

    The British limit of 70mph is lower than that in many other European countries. The limit in Ireland and Spain is 75mph while it is 81mph in France and Italy. Speed limits in the US vary from state to state and are typically between 55mph and 70mph.

     

  • Isaac
    Isaac
    13 years ago

     

    SPEED; they always bang on about SPEED as if that's the only killer out there.

    Everyday as I travel - and often in medium paced traffic jams - the dangerous shit I observe is people changing lanes too quickly & not paying attention & tail gating & TEXTING & so on.

    I suggest impatience at any speed is a major problem.

     

  • Uncle Ho
    Uncle Ho
    13 years ago

     

    lived in UK from '88-'93 during which time there were very few cameras... never got caught and would often do 100 clicks...

     

    travelled back to UK regulary over the period '93-'99 and saw a huge increase in cameras, both speed and and surveylance... started travelling back there agin in '04 and it was unbelieveable to amount of cameras... I slowed a little but was helped by the fact that all camera locations are pretty obvious. The cops are generally pretty good unless of course you are being a hoon or dangerous.

     

    Europe is a great place to drive.....

     

  • NedKelley
    NedKelley
    13 years ago
    Interesting debate eh? Same for your cousins over here, and despite any positioning about road safety, it is predominantly a revenue gathering exercise. Not been back to the UK since leaving in 2000, and must admit, since starting driving (well riding really, never owned a car until I was 25) in 1977, I never recieved a speeding ticket untill moving to NZ?? Just lucky and prior to leaving...do not remember speed cameras being such a plague!!
    Anywhooooo, one ocasion I was pulled over while still in the Army...I was riding from a course in the north RAF Leaconfield...back to Shrewsbury. Like a good squaddie left it untill I absolutley had to and rode overnight for an 0600 parade!! Stopped just outside of Shrewsbury by a patrol car in the early hours.
    Back then being forces sometimes had advantages, so I always kept my licence with my ID card an ID wallet. Police walked up, asked if I knew why I had been stopped and where I was going...Once it was established who I was, talked a bit about various postings, he being ex forces. I then had a police escort back to John Moore Barracks and no ticket.....
    Oh how times change eh??? No worries, just ride safe, and keep your eyes open....we are easy pickings for the tax collectors!! :)