Monster Ovals

  • slup
    slup
    13 years ago

    I'm a very happy Chappie!, got my Monster Ovals Slip - On's delivered today, just finished fitting them on my Road King without any problems and THEY SOUND GREAT!!. I cannot wait to hit the Hwy!!!. Next step will be a set of Dresser Duals but i think i'll wait and get some K's on the bike before i do. Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge.

  • Cowboy
    Cowboy
    13 years ago

    Davo is right they get better and better... On my 96 c.i. Road King it made a major difference as you got closer to 5000 kms...   On my 103 Ultra, the same.   I ran V&H on both, and a Big Sucker air cleaner, but then when intake and exhaust are opened up your engine will run too lean.  On both I ran the V&H Power Duals, and the same on my  110 cu. in. Street Glide now, but they drag as they are a bit low and below the frame.  You hit a little hump on a curve and scrape chrome bad, so I am thinking on my next bike the Ultra, I will go the way you are...  My Street Glide is at 5500 km since December, and just now getting looser and responsive, opened up exhaust and intake and tuner...

    A little help for you Buddy:  You are going to need a tuner to richen up the Fuel/Air mix, and then the low end will cackle and be far more responsive.  It will make a difference as big as the header pipes do getting rid of the Cats and going to a cleaned out exhaust...  This is really not optional, as it will run too lean and can hurt your engine without richening up the mix.  I have the VCM (Vehicle Communications Module) for many vehicles, and they give you one with your tuner, it is a Laptop HD program required with a Tuner to do this at a Dealer.  I have the IDS (Integrated Diagnostic System) for other vehicles, program on a Laptop, but not the HD one as yet...  Anyway, you need to do this, and they give you a VCM for your bike.  Unfortunately you have a VIN lock with the HD tuner so it is a one bike one time setup... That is so they can make more $$$$ and the stock ECM (Electronic Control Module) on a Harley and little to nil Fuel / Air mix range, so we have no choice.  Smart Bastards at marketing they are...

    Now a little help for me Buddy?  On my new Dresser coming, CVO Ultra, I am currently thinking of going the same as you are doing, Dresser Duals, and Monster Ovals.    Have a look at yours, can you open up the Monster Ovals in the back to get rid of the narrow restriction?  I like an opened up exaust, at least 50 mm for the 110 cu. in. even the 103 c.i. runs better with it.  And it is a bit louder for "NO blind spots" heh he....

    Stay safe, shiney side up Buddy,   Cowboy on the Sunshine Coast....

  • slup
    slup
    13 years ago

    Thanks guys, when i got the bike i had SE Slip-on's, a Heavy Breather AC and a SE ProTuner, i'm hopeful the tuner wiil all i need to richen up the Fuel/Air mix . 

    Cowboy, sorry mate i''m a bit of tosser when it comes to exhaust, if you mean the flange on the muffler that fits over the header pipe, the flange has splits so i reckon it will be real tight on 50mm.

  • Cowboy
    Cowboy
    13 years ago

    SLUP, ow r ya mate,

    The help I was looking for was not at the front of the muffler.  the front of the muffler has a couple of splits, on top and one bottom, like most or all slip ons, and the fat clamp seals that agains the header pipe...  Actually that is the only trouble I have had working on the exhaust of the Twin Cams was with having to open up those splits to get the muffler off the headers.... I ended up making a sharpened screwdriver to tap up with a hammer and spread those splits to loosen up the overlap on the header.  I think that happens when someone has tightened up the clamps to much..

    Anyway, SLUP, the help I was looking for was at the other end, on the tail pipe end of the muffler.  It looks like it restricts down to about 30-35 mm from picture.. But around that tail end of the Monster Ovals is a series of fasteners of some kind, maybe allen or Torx bolts, and I am wondering if that back end looks like it comes off??????    I am guessing (hoping) it is like the Super Trap, and it throttles down the exhaust to rescirculate it through a series of baffles... Maybe.... Have not taken one apart.  Wondering if you can help.  I like to open up the exhaust and get a clean run through with about 50mm for the 110 cu. in.

    On the Dresser Duals vrs Power Duals, I got an answer back from V&H and they said:     "You will lose 3 horse power by choosing the Dresser Duals over the Power Duals."   The Monster Ovals are 4.5”x5.5”.

    That would fill up the box area underneath really well....  If I cannot mod the existing mufflers, I may go that way..

  • fatboy01
    fatboy01
    13 years ago

    Hi Slup,

     I have just got my Monster Ovals delivered and I am going to attempt putting them on this weekend. Is there anything that was a pain or needed any thing special in the way of tools and what happens to the EPA shit that is connected to the original pipes?

  • slup
    slup
    13 years ago

    Hi Fatboy01, the hardest part of the job was getting the mufflers off!, as soon as I knew the Monster Ovals were going to be hard to fit onto the header pipes,  I took the mufflers straight around to a exhaust shop and had them open up the flange a little, a little trick I read on other forums, once I did that they slip straight on. Just make sure you tighten the clamps REAL tight!. It's not a big job, took me about 2 hours and a few frostys to do. Mate had no EPA shit to worry about, just a straight change over. Great Choice!, Great Sound!