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TROUBLEMAKERS VS BIG RADIUS

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  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago

     Hi guys just wondering about a few things.

    1 -  im after a big sound, and performance, which gives better sound on a 07 sporty?

    2 -  some prices vary and im getting different prices on different sites ranging from 540 up to like 900 help??

    3 - i would like the down swept ones that well i call ground thumpers, but very pricy, am going to try M&M but not sure on part nos,

    4 - also i like the V&H short shots anyone had any experience with these ones? how loud? and performance wise?

  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    14 years ago
    1) Try youtube to listen to the sound of different pipes. The troublemakers I've heard are loud, but seem to attract cops like bees to honey.
    2) Prices vary widely, especially in Aus, but make sure each site is offering the same thing and your not misreading it.
    3) Email M&Ms - they are very helpful.
    4) Never heard them, but short shots are supposed to be loud, so presumably cop magnets.
  • bertiebettle
    bertiebettle
    14 years ago

     A friend just put a set of the V&H Big Radius 2in2 and SE tuner on a 2008 1200 custom. Got it dynoed high 70's hp, I think 78 hp. it got a big sound. (loud).   May get a bit of attention though.  as Bonkerz said. But they do look good.

  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
    hey guys this is the quote from M&M for the pipes and plug set,alot cheaper than anywhere else

    Part No. Description
    Unit Price
    Quantity
    Extended Price
    18000750 EXH SD-SHT 04-10 XL
    $ 479.96
    1
    $ 479.96
    18001217 EXHAUST B-R 2-2CH 04-1
    $ 479.96
    1
    $ 479.96
    18610464 PLUG KIT F/SENSORS 18M
    $ 13.56
    1
    $ 13.56

    Sub Total:
    $ 973.48
    Shipping:
    $ 136.95
    Sales Tax:
    $ 0.00
    Grand Total:
    $ 1110.43
  • Midnite
    Midnite
    14 years ago

    Ive had the side shots, and theyre loud, trust me you will need the quiet baffles and not only to quiet it up but to increase back pressure.. but again even with the quiet baffles there still loud but not ear spltting.. the baffle you get standard, well i wouldnt call it a baffle its more of a resonator design. in other words its straight through.  I would think they would be similar to the short shots

    I had these on the dyno and acheived 84hp atw, but lost all of my midrange which is what you dont want. I placed the quiet baffles in and gained a bit of my mid range t back but not all of what i was expecting.

    also with most of the pipes, you will need to grind a bit of the mounting bracket to stop it from grinding your belt.

    After all this process i came to two conclusions.

    Stick with the standard  headers and slips on best bank for buck for mid range power

                                                           or, like i have done now

    2 into one pipe...... and the best are D & D bobcat exhaust... i cant express how good the note is and the mid range power.

     

    They are quieter that the V&H side shots and offer a very deep note at idle.. I have only put  them on two weeks ago but everyone i bump into comments on how good the note is.. At idle it sounds bigger then a 1200. have a look at this link in you tube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8MlWpv1IFM

    and

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyh1fo8LEMo

     

    ps - you can purchase them form Mark, M&M Cycles a little more exp then V&H'S

  • terroristone
    terroristone
    14 years ago

    d&d's look ok, not sure about the sound, sounds more like a jap bike really, and from what i can see looks like you will have to forward controls???? I like that they make more in the mid....i'll be keeping my eye on these....

     

    Andrew

  • crackers
    crackers
    14 years ago

    Bassani Sweepers? Ring Walka @ VPW

  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
    thats similar look im looking for like the hooker troublemakers or vanve and hynes, and not to sure on that type might be a little too loud lmao, piggy magnet mwaahahahaha
  • sssmour
    sssmour
    14 years ago

    Hi Nim I have the Vance & Hines Big Radius 2 into 2. They look great and are pretty loud, but does sound awesome. Check out video below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6zJT7nLBGg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhzltjqc_1w

    Being a straight through pipe config, without a balance tube between each pipe, you will only gain some extra power at higher rpm. I went for looks and sound.

    I would have preferred the Hooker Trouble Makers but they stopped making bike pipes a couple of years back and the only ones availabe didn't have the o2 sensor plugs.

    Have since fitted a SE heavy breather and the bikes runs alot better. Just need to find a good tuner to update the TTS. PM if you need any more help.

  • Deadwood
    Deadwood
    14 years ago

    As Crackers said, try Walka at VPW (site sponsor) as I remember reading somewhere he had Trouble Makers in stock but not sure what model or even if he has some left now, he might also have first hand experience with them from someone he sold them to. As sssmour says they don't make Hookers any more however I think they were coming out the same factory as V&H's anyway so in essence they are the same thing.

    Mate had them on a Softy and they sounded shidot but he seems to think his SE slipons gave better performance after he installed a 95ci kit but never got it dyno'd to back it up.

    Freedom Performance also do a similar look to the big radius pipes as well.

    freedomperform.com/shop/

  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
    yeah there is the side shots i was looking at also but like the look of the down swept pipes of the trouble makers or big radius which ever you want to call them, so im leaning towards the vance and hynes but gotta decide which cut to get,
    i like the how do i say horizontal cut like open directly to the ground but not sure if V and H make em in that cut otherwise ill have to go for the slash cut away from the bike but i like how the down facing ones pound the ground, hence the term ground thumpers lol
  • walka
    walka
    14 years ago
    Hooker stoped Making Motorcycle Pipes about 2 years ago. In the Trouble maker range they had 3 diffrent Cuts, Scallop, Slash and Straight Cuts. V & H and Freedom only have Scallop Cut,

    All 3 Brands are made in the same Factory, so the Qualty is all the same. I have a few sets of the Straight Cut Hookers left $450.00 a set. they are for 04 to 06 and dont have O2 Sensor Ports. You can fit them on to 07 and up if you use a Power Comander with them as a PC does not need O2 Sensors
  • Poddy
    Poddy
    14 years ago

     

     

    These sounded BIG and gave great power, but I was also running some minor mods like TC88 etc

     

    Cheers

    Poddy

  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
    thats the cut i am after poddy, do you have any of them left? and im currently running a TTS and tune it myself, and a screaming eagle heavy breather but apart from that no other mods?
  • pennywise
    pennywise
    14 years ago
    Hi nimo, I have these Troblemaker Darksides for sale they are off a 2010 sporty, they sound great and if you have the TTS and Breather you should have no issues with them.

  • Taffymarsden
    Taffymarsden
    14 years ago

     NOt wanting to distract form SPorties but my Fatty had Big Radius on when I got it and I lasted four days before I asked the dealer to refit the original se2S because I was sure I'd get booked. Spectacular improvement in performance, (and it doesn't blow flames anymore!) but the original owner had not fitted a tuner. Now I wouldn't mind to V&H back on, just for looks, but the tuner is essential.

    The short shots look cool but do impact on performance and they have a high "cracking" note. The SEs are very deep and sound great but stillvery loud. The look is a bit ordinary though IMHO.

  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
    coolies thanks pennywise but im prob going to go for the same ones but in chrome but vance and hynes want like 800 and i def aint paying that so il prob get them form M& M
  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
    well i have ordered and paid for my vance and hynes big radius pipes and are meant to be here next week so il let you all know how they go after i put them on and do some v tune runs
  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
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    vance and hynes big radius hope it works
  • nimo07sporty
    nimo07sporty
    14 years ago
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