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  • killerchef
    killerchef
    12 years ago

    my understanding of it sp is that you ride like you normally do and make sure that your tune run includes hills and a bit of freeway riding too so you go thorugh different rev ranges. good luck with it. hope the deluxe is going well for ya.

    edit :  sp check out the power vision thread on the us site mate.  heaps of info on the auto tuning there.

  • sic-puppy
    sic-puppy
    12 years ago
    KC, thanks mate ..
    ive been reading stuff from everywhere on the auto tune process but I must a bit off on something, as for the lux ,mate its going great , said I would leave it stock....that didn't last long hah. and I just cant stay off it
  • robcig
    robcig
    12 years ago
    Funny that, I have the same problem. Bought my bike in December with 9,300k's now have 16,200k's...and I dont go anywhere!!!!
    Looking forward to getting my tuner though, can't wait.
  • sHr3d
    sHr3d
    12 years ago

     You can't go wrong with Fuel Moto. I found them very responsive as long as you dont get all antzy waiting for an updated map. It is best if you ring early our morninsg and speak to them direct.

    I have used the auto tune for while now and it's interesting as to the results you get. On my last ride with teh Ulysses on Friday up to Lithgow and back raods and back the bike averaged 5.4 l/100 klms which is pretty good I reckon - about 320 kilometres before the low fuel light cam on.

    Another great thing about the Power Vision are the gauges and trip computer you get thrown in. - Its good to see an analogue tacho, gear selector, volts and many more up in various gauge styles. Engine temp and IAC are good ones too.

    I still seem to get a lot of de-cel popping but I wonder if that is due to the 4 degress of retardation you get when using Auto Tune basic. I should just take it out of AT for a while. I did read somewhere on a US site that if you keep enrichening the de-cel , you are just wasting fuel and should see about altering baffles to change the AFR.

    Any thoughts?

    I also seem to get a bit of surging still so musn't have the AT sorted yet. Anyone get an occasional miss when on steady throttle?

     

    I'm on a 2012 Softail Heritage.

     

  • fat tim
    fat tim
    12 years ago

    I've been playing with the PV for a few weeks now.  I bought mine in Australia for $550 and paid DYNOJET another $200 so I could use it on my wifes sportster as well.  If you send DYNOJET a copy of your tune, they will recommend an AFR table to use.  Copy that to your original map and start Autotuning from there.  Its near on impossible to fill all the cells in Autotune (believe me , I've tried ! ), but you aim to get the tune to within +/-  3 to 5  % as shown on the screen.  I had de-cel popping as well, until you exit Autotune and re-flash the bike.  I kept doing this until I was within the correct percentage.  The following email might explain it a bit better.

     

     

    It’s definitely an aftermarket cal, either SERT or the newer SEPST.  The cal ID is a dead giveaway:

     

    176AE106-001

     

    OK, when the Power Vision sets up your tune for Auotune Basic, it makes many changes to the actual tune while you’re in this state.  When you export your learned values   and then exit AT-Basic you would then flash a corrected tune back to the ECM.  This tune will only have 2 things changed, those being VE front and VE rear.  The whole point is to correct the VE tables so that what you command in the fuel (AFR) table is what’s actually achieved when it comes out of the tailpipe.  As you can see from your fuel table, it’s loaded with 14.6 values which is actually stoichiometric and great for “lean burn / fuel efficiency”.

     

    Here is what we would use for values:

     

     


     

    As a matter of interest, this is what the dealer put on when I had the bike delivered,

     


  • fat tim
    fat tim
    12 years ago

    One other thing, DO NOT autotune one of the DYNOJET tunes that comes on the PV.  These were loaded from the old power commander and don't work well with Auto tune.  Get a new table from the states.

  • robots
    robots
    12 years ago

     hi,

    thats good deal for $750 to do 2 bikes, does it just hook upto both easily and all functions available

    thanks

    robots

  • fat tim
    fat tim
    12 years ago

    Robots,

     

    Hooks up the same way on both bikes (Fatbob and Sporty)  I can swap from one to the other in a couple of minutes.  I just put the PV in my pocket or the saddlebag and go for a run.  I've found a 20 km run, then reflash the new tune to the bike, then Autotune again, got all the figures about right with 4 tunes.

     

    Tim

  • robots
    robots
    12 years ago

     hi,

    thanks, nice rides you got there man, they straight shots on the fatbob?

    my girlfriend going to san francisco in a few weeks and I got $500 to spend and was thinking about the Powervision

    they reckon its a good device

    thanks

    robots

  • fat tim
    fat tim
    12 years ago

    Before you spend the money in the states, check the price here.  Cassons is the agent in Australia, but you will need to go through a bike shop as they don't sell direct.  I don't have easy access to a dyno, so for me this is the next best thing.  Both bikes run much smoother though all the gears, and fuel economy doesn't appear much different.  Emails to Dynojet in the states are answered overnight, and you can contact them as much as you want once registered.  The PV allows you to change pretty much every part of the tune, but I'm just going by what Dynojet tell me.  You do need to be able to find your way around a computer a bit (saving, copying and moving files), but I'm no rocket surgeon or brain scientist (or the other way around) and I seem to manage.  Yes they are straightshots, but not straighshot originals,

     

    Tim

  • robcig
    robcig
    12 years ago
    I bought mine (well paid for anyway), direct through Fuel Moto. Paid on Wednesday, hopefully should'nt be too much longer.
  • Frosty57
    Frosty57
    12 years ago
    G'day fellas, been running the pv2 in my slim since delivery, flashed closest map to what was available, jamie advised that map was ok for my configuration ie: v&h 3" slip ons, kuryakyn hi5 mach2 air. Worked well for a few months, now starting to get a bit of decel pop occasionly. Have done the obvious and checked torque on pipes at slip on and header end, any clues lads. cheers frosty.
  • carbon fibre
    carbon fibre
    11 years ago
    Reflash the last map you loaded into bike and check if decel is gone?
  • Frosty57
    Frosty57
    11 years ago
    Cheers for the tips fellas, will do both.....
  • Frosty57
    Frosty57
    11 years ago
    Cheers for the tips fellas, will do both.....
  • robcig
    robcig
    11 years ago
    Guys, I received my Power Vision on Thursday so like a kid at Christmas, I fitted the Ness Big Sucker and hooked up the Power Vision on Friday. In a word, WOW . The thing is awesome, like a new bike! Some feedback I can offer,
    1. The installation was absolutely simple. Any dummy can hook it up as long as you follow the instructions.
    2. The Big Sucker also makes a huge difference. The air flow and the noise it makes gives me a chubby everytime I fang it!
    3 Power deliver at low speed is smoother. It does'nt jerk and carry on, and is more responsive. Remember I had a Deluxe with a throttle cable and really disliked the TBW. All good
    4.The thing powers on up to redline without fuss. Smooth, and certainly more powerful. I noticed some pinging yesterday at 4500 RPM, but used 95 Octane today with any issue.
    5 The heat I used to feel seems to have settled. Not sure if enriching the fuel mixture would have contibuted.
    Not sure what the stealer would have charged, but I'm very happy I did it all myself, and with great results.
  • Darke_peak
    Darke_peak
    11 years ago

    Blah

  • Nomada
    Nomada
    11 years ago
    So whats the go with it taking a couple of degrees out of the timing in auto tune.
    Wouldn't that de tune the bike from a pee set tune.

    Doesn't quite make sense to de tune before improve tune when you cant add timing. (or can you)
  • Darke_peak
    Darke_peak
    11 years ago

    Blah

  • sic-puppy
    sic-puppy
    11 years ago
    mate , ive had the same problem, then the other day I noticed that if I go thru the motions , then start the bike I had to re turn the unit on and go from there. I have to do some more so ill write down what ive done.
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