my understanding of it sp is that you ride like you normally do and make sure that your tune run includes hills and a bit of freeway riding too so you go thorugh different rev ranges. good luck with it. hope the deluxe is going well for ya.
edit : sp check out the power vision thread on the us site mate. heaps of info on the auto tuning there.
You can't go wrong with Fuel Moto. I found them very responsive as long as you dont get all antzy waiting for an updated map. It is best if you ring early our morninsg and speak to them direct.
I have used the auto tune for while now and it's interesting as to the results you get. On my last ride with teh Ulysses on Friday up to Lithgow and back raods and back the bike averaged 5.4 l/100 klms which is pretty good I reckon - about 320 kilometres before the low fuel light cam on.
Another great thing about the Power Vision are the gauges and trip computer you get thrown in. - Its good to see an analogue tacho, gear selector, volts and many more up in various gauge styles. Engine temp and IAC are good ones too.
I still seem to get a lot of de-cel popping but I wonder if that is due to the 4 degress of retardation you get when using Auto Tune basic. I should just take it out of AT for a while. I did read somewhere on a US site that if you keep enrichening the de-cel , you are just wasting fuel and should see about altering baffles to change the AFR.
Any thoughts?
I also seem to get a bit of surging still so musn't have the AT sorted yet. Anyone get an occasional miss when on steady throttle?
I'm on a 2012 Softail Heritage.
I've been playing with the PV for a few weeks now. I bought mine in Australia for $550 and paid DYNOJET another $200 so I could use it on my wifes sportster as well. If you send DYNOJET a copy of your tune, they will recommend an AFR table to use. Copy that to your original map and start Autotuning from there. Its near on impossible to fill all the cells in Autotune (believe me , I've tried ! ), but you aim to get the tune to within +/- 3 to 5 % as shown on the screen. I had de-cel popping as well, until you exit Autotune and re-flash the bike. I kept doing this until I was within the correct percentage. The following email might explain it a bit better.
It’s definitely an aftermarket cal, either SERT or the newer SEPST. The cal ID is a dead giveaway:
176AE106-001
OK, when the Power Vision sets up your tune for Auotune Basic, it makes many changes to the actual tune while you’re in this state. When you export your learned values and then exit AT-Basic you would then flash a corrected tune back to the ECM. This tune will only have 2 things changed, those being VE front and VE rear. The whole point is to correct the VE tables so that what you command in the fuel (AFR) table is what’s actually achieved when it comes out of the tailpipe. As you can see from your fuel table, it’s loaded with 14.6 values which is actually stoichiometric and great for “lean burn / fuel efficiency”.
Here is what we would use for values:
As a matter of interest, this is what the dealer put on when I had the bike delivered,
One other thing, DO NOT autotune one of the DYNOJET tunes that comes on the PV. These were loaded from the old power commander and don't work well with Auto tune. Get a new table from the states.
hi,
thats good deal for $750 to do 2 bikes, does it just hook upto both easily and all functions available
thanks
robots
Robots,
Hooks up the same way on both bikes (Fatbob and Sporty) I can swap from one to the other in a couple of minutes. I just put the PV in my pocket or the saddlebag and go for a run. I've found a 20 km run, then reflash the new tune to the bike, then Autotune again, got all the figures about right with 4 tunes.
Tim
thanks, nice rides you got there man, they straight shots on the fatbob?
my girlfriend going to san francisco in a few weeks and I got $500 to spend and was thinking about the Powervision
they reckon its a good device
Before you spend the money in the states, check the price here. Cassons is the agent in Australia, but you will need to go through a bike shop as they don't sell direct. I don't have easy access to a dyno, so for me this is the next best thing. Both bikes run much smoother though all the gears, and fuel economy doesn't appear much different. Emails to Dynojet in the states are answered overnight, and you can contact them as much as you want once registered. The PV allows you to change pretty much every part of the tune, but I'm just going by what Dynojet tell me. You do need to be able to find your way around a computer a bit (saving, copying and moving files), but I'm no rocket surgeon or brain scientist (or the other way around) and I seem to manage. Yes they are straightshots, but not straighshot originals,
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