hope some body can help with this .i am trying to quite the pipes down i have replaced the baffles with vance & hines quite baffles still to loud i was going to have a go at making my own was going to get some tube and weld some 1/2 washers into pipe any body tryed this?any other ideas?

Get some standard pipes maybe ... or a quiet jappa.

Welding Washers wont work on there own, I have welded Washers into my Baffles on my Hooker Pipes, The only avdantage is the Washers will give you back some Back Presure and more Performance, Thats why I did it to mine.
You need to track down some Fibrglass Filter Media, It's used in the Manufacter of High Perfromance Mufflers, like what the Touring Car Guys use. This will Work with a Washer at each end of the Baffle to hold it in. Try Lancaster Glass Fiber Aust. I know they supply HRT

 thanks for the help i rang lancasters and there mailing the packing out to me ,got to try something as it is just to loud and to the other bloke yes i have considered putting the originals back on but as this is a forum  im looking at other peoples ideas and why would i want to buy a jap bike for And this one owes me about $35,000. If I wanted a jap bike, I'd be on a Jap bike forum.

 walka. lancasters matting arrived today , whey do not muck about.thanks for your help

Try these-----> http://www.smartpartz.com/SPZVHBR.html

Good speedy service, from this site, I still cant bring myself to put them on yet but there good for around 6db

gooday/. see how the packing goes. i had the same problem with my bubs pipes. just too loud. i tried the fibre matting wrapped around the perferations. made very little difference. i then tried the washers. the holes in the washers were around 12 mm. so allowed a free flow of exhaust to flow through. still didnt quieten it down. from what i had read the washer are to alter the flow of air passing through the pipes. to make it zig zag if you like. with the holes in the middle this didnt happen. btw i used 3 washers. removed the baffles for the 4th time. replaced the washers with some flat plate but went 2mm past halfway through the baffle . so that air HAD to go up and over the plate to get to the next plate. then the third. HUGE difference now. so all up i have three plates and baffle material wrapped around the outer side of the baffle. reduced sound so much that i may remove one plate. has a very deep idle note. just doesnt get any louder with rpm..and for informations sake. the first plate is positioned at the very start of the perforations in the baffle, the second one in the middle and the third, at the end. all placed with a slight angle towards the rear of the muffler as i didnt want to restrict air flow too much. hope i explained that well enough. any questions i get on here every couple of days.

hope thats of some help

cheers.

Hey Walker what size washers did you use? I love the hooker troublemakers but would like to give them a deeper note? Any sugestions?

 thank you will try any thing,bike is in the work shop ill get it back in 1 to 2 weeks i will be busy trying these suggestions. Thank you again.