Sorry... another damn OIL question.

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  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago

    OK,  go easy on me here fellas and yes I have used the search function but couldn't find the answers..

     

    1. I want to run mineral oil and do more frequent oil changes rather than run synthetic and do less frequently.... Besides the HD (dealer recommended) oil - what  MINERAL oil is best to use??

    2. For the cooler climates of Victoria and Tasmania.....  do I use 10W-40 or 20W-50?? or something else?  Dealer says 20W-50 but I don't trust anything a dealer says....

     

    Thanks for any advice..... (bike is a 2010 Deluxe).

  • speedzter
    speedzter
    14 years ago
    berms, i swear by Penrite, and run it in all my cars and bikes.
    Either HPR Diesel or HPR Gas in 20w60
  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago
    Posted By speedzter on 15 Aug 2010 7:40 PM
    berms, i swear by Penrite, and run it in all my cars and bikes.
    Either HPR Diesel or HPR Gas in 20w60

    Thanks, but aren't they synthetic oils you listed?

  • Deadly
    Deadly
    14 years ago

    Different sort of idea, but that don't make it wrong

    In my 1982 GoldWing I use Castrol Active 20W50, This is a good product and correct for this bike except that the starter clutch sticks on hot starts which means I should be using the 10W40 recomended by owners manual, and despite my wanting to use a heavier grade oil because it's a 147,000 klm old motor fact is the maker new what was right and lets face it, it has lasted 28 years.

  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago
    Posted By speedzter on 15 Aug 2010 8:03 PM
    Posted By berms on 15 Aug 2010 7:43 PM
    Posted By speedzter on 15 Aug 2010 7:40 PM
    berms, i swear by Penrite, and run it in all my cars and bikes.
    Either HPR Diesel or HPR Gas in 20w60

    Thanks, but aren't they synthetic oils you listed?


    There are Synthetic versions, but the ones I listed are mineral, and about $35 for 5 litres. HPR Gas10 is a semi Syn 10w50 that I use in my KTM 950
     

    www.penriteoil.com.au/products/motor-oil/hpr/hpr_gas

    www.penriteoil.com.au/products/motor-oil/hpr/hpr_diesel

    Thanks for the links..... are you recommending the semi syn 10w-50?  or the HPR Gas 20w-60?

  • Deadly
    Deadly
    14 years ago

    At the risk of going way far away off topic which is generally considered UNCOOL

    is there any chance Dicko your checking to see if I am on a Wing forum?

  • Deadly
    Deadly
    14 years ago

    and I just posted a Honda pic on a Harley forum:)

    posted lots of Harley pics on a GoldWing forum but I just can't wait to see how this one goes :)

  • speedzter
    speedzter
    14 years ago
    I would stay with the mineral 20w60 in the Harley, I only use the 10w50 in the KTM950 as it's water cooled.



  • BURTO
    BURTO
    14 years ago

     All this oil talk.........I just dont get it!

    Change your oil frequently, use what the manufacturer recommends, how can you go wrong?

    I've ridden and serviced 4 Harleys over the last 20 years......shovels and evos...........always used Valvoline XLD (YEAH! The cheapish stuff you can buy from supermarket!!)on the Evos after recommendation from HD mechanic. Never had a problem.

    Now I'm on a Twin cam, XLD doesn't suit, after some research, decided to use what the manufacturer uses and recommends..........Harley Davidson 20W50...........after all, they use it to service their bikes under 2 year, unlimited km warranty....at 8,000kay intervals!

    I think that should speak for itself.........however since I ride my bikes pretty hard.......I change engine oil and filter at 4,000km intervals, using the same HD recommended oil!

    Why spend more money.............IMO.. frequency of oil change beats (so called) oil quality everyday!

    I spose you can run what you like............If your happy to pay the extra! As long as the oil meets the manufacturers specifications! Your call.

  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago
    Posted By BURTO on 16 Aug 2010 10:34 PM

     All this oil talk.........I just dont get it!

    Change your oil frequently, use what the manufacturer recommends, how can you go wrong?

    I've ridden and serviced 4 Harleys over the last 20 years......shovels and evos...........always used Valvoline XLD (YEAH! The cheapish stuff you can buy from supermarket!!)on the Evos after recommendation from HD mechanic. Never had a problem.

    Now I'm on a Twin cam, XLD doesn't suit, after some research, decided to use what the manufacturer uses and recommends..........Harley Davidson 20W50...........after all, they use it to service their bikes under 2 year, unlimited km warranty....at 8,000kay intervals!

    I think that should speak for itself.........however since I ride my bikes pretty hard.......I change engine oil and filter at 4,000km intervals, using the same HD recommended oil!

    Why spend more money.............IMO.. frequency of oil change beats (so called) oil quality everyday!

    I spose you can run what you like............If your happy to pay the extra! As long as the oil meets the manufacturers specifications! Your call.

    Burto, thanks for your input...... There's nothing wrong with the "Harley Davidson" oil.    I was just looking for an alternative to the HD branded oil, thats all.

  • speedzter
    speedzter
    14 years ago
    Burto, you must be "Lucky" enough to have a Harley dealer close by.
    Some of us out in the sticks don't, so an alternative can be very handy.
    As you know, Harley doesn't make oil, they just buy it and rebadge it, and there are plenty of equally good or better options.
  • speedzter
    speedzter
    14 years ago
    Damn, 4 hours ! I thought I had it bad at 2 hrs.
    I guess you take the saddle bags and load up with oil each trip :-)
    Funny enough, I get most stuff quicker from the States than the local dealers !
  • BURTO
    BURTO
    14 years ago
    Thats what I'm sayin! The HD stuff isn't too expensive!
  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago
    Posted By BURTO on 18 Aug 2010 7:06 PM
    Thats what I'm sayin! The HD stuff isn't too expensive!

    BURTO, do you use "HD" stuff for your gearbox and primary as well?

  • BURTO
    BURTO
    14 years ago

     Will do, after warranty period is over.

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    14 years ago

    I always used mineral oil in motors, mostly Kendal 20w 50w or any mineral Turbo Diesel oil, & changed it regular.

    then about two years back after closely watching a mate that races & pulls his motors down regularly, he went from mineral to Redline oil, i saw how the redline oil was stoping a lot of wear & tear that the mineral was'nt. then i went with Redline, the Redline guy from WA said for what i was doing i could leave the oil in 12 months or more, so i did. i also went to Redline Heavy Shockproof gear oil in gearbox (Five Speed twin cam ) the box shifted beautiful still does three years on had motor ( top & bottom end ) apart once since it works so i'm sticking to it, was looking in my friends top bike motor last night can see how the redline oil impregnates ( for a better word ? ) itself into the metal , they used to run Aluminum rods no bearings in some of the older Top Fuel ( Nitro ) motors and saw the difference between mineral and Redline oil, now the motors he runs have a car type rod clevite bearings, can't use rollers like the street harleys as 90%+ Nitro the shock loads are too high for roller bearings.

    but in the end i don't give a bugger what you all use.

    Cheers Krash

  • speedzter
    speedzter
    14 years ago
    I think Redline is around $120 for 3.8 litres ?
  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago
    Posted By HogBag07 on 22 Aug 2010 2:28 PM

    Castrol edge 20/50 $30 5 ltr motor,  Redline shock proof gearbox  $45 ltr,  HD primary

    Hogbag.... why Castrol edge? and what weight do you use?

  • UltraBaggy
    UltraBaggy
    14 years ago

    check this out berms
    http://www.castroledge.com.au/synthetics/synth_edge.php
  • berms
    berms
    14 years ago
    Posted By UltraBaggy on 22 Aug 2010 7:24 PM

    check this out berms
    http://www.castroledge.com.au/synthetics/synth_edge.php


    Thanks - seems like good product..... but if you are going to run a synthetic "car oil"  isn't  Mobil 1 supposed to be the best?

    Cheers, berms

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