G'day all,

The old girl has just done 50k and I think I will pull the cam cheat cover off to check the condition of the tensioners, and if they need replacing I was wondering if I have to pull the plate off I would like to fit one of them Baisley oil pressure springs and the newer and better type of oil pump to my older 1998 cam support plate. The motor was rebuilt back in 2000 and Harley replaced the crank, cam plate ( PN 24598.99), oil pump, pistons, cylinders and they put in torrinton bearings and I had fitted AP TW 50 cams and quite a few other bits so as ya can see if the tensioners need replacing I would rather do them hoping that the new set will last till 100k and then maybe I will go for another upgrade up to  say a 98' with gear driven cams.

Whats ya thoughts

Thanx

Stinga

You will need to upgrade your Cam plate as well to suit the newer HD oil pump, Harley sells a kit (look at part 25284-08). Or you can fit a Fueling Oil pump to your old plate at around $400usd.  All depends how much you want to spend, but the cheapest option is just to replace your tensioners if they are worn, along with new cam bearings, and just inspect your old pump and re-use if OK.

You can also go with the latest hydraulic setup, but you will need new cams as well, or there's Gear drive Cams. Gets expensive.

 Speedzter,

Thanks mate for ya input, on the US sites there is this bloke who can supply everything needed  to go the full upgrade to the new cam plate, pump with roller chains cams or gear drivin cams, even blue and red loctite,  all "o" rings and gaskets but ya need to get new cam for about US$700. I have payed my fair share of the Harley tax already so i will doin the check and change of the tensioners but it's a bit like opening a can of worms ya dont whats in there until ya get the lid off.

Stinga

Sounds like the guy called "Herko" I've read about with his own kit. The HD kit I listed is about $350, and uses your own Cams and chains. Replacement spring tensioners are about $50 each, so the HD kit probably isn't bad value with the new oil pump.
I've just pulled my 2000 FXD down to do some mod's, and the tensioners were fine after 30k kms, and well within spec' .
I would've gone with the new HD kit, but just trying to save a few $$, and the old system still works fine with small lift cams.

Cheers

Stinga

I just done this conversion upgrade & it cost me $640 US including Andrews cams. I just individually ordered parts through M&M's. Cam bearings from Statewide Bearings - $22 for 2.

If you want all the P/N for upgrade PM me & I will give them to you as well as prices what M&M charged me

FLS

Why not just post up the P/N list here. It may help someone else in the future.

Speedzter good idea.

HD P/N as follows for 02 - 06 Softails & Tourers, 02-05 Dynas (99-01 bikes require different 34T sprocket Andrews P/N 216015)
26037-06 1-OIL PUMP ASSEMBLY
25355-06 1-CAM SUPPORT PLATE ASSEMBLY
11461 1-RETAINING RING (front cam snap ring)
25683-06 1-INNER ROLLER CHAIN
39969-06 1-INNER CHAIN TENSIONER
25675-06 1-OUTER ROLLER CHAIN
39968-06 1-OUTER CHAIN TENSIONER
25729-06 1-SPACER (0.100 - front cam thrust washer)
25731-06 1-SPACER (0.110 for cam alignment)
25734-06 1-SPACER (0.120 for cam alignment)
25736-06 1-SPACER (0.130 for cam alignment)
25737-06 1-SPACER (0.140 for cam alignment)
25738-06 1-SPACER (0.150 for cam alignment)
25673-06 1-CRANKSHAFT SPROCKET (17 teeth)
4740A 2-INNER TENSIONER SOCKET HEAD SCREW
942 2-OUTER TENSIONER SOCKET HEAD SCREW
25566-06 1-SPROCKET RETENTION KIT
11293 1-OIL PUMP O-RING
11301 2-CAM SUPPORT PLATE O-RING
25728-06 1-REAR CAMSHAFT DRIVE SPROCKET (34 teeth)
B148 2-TORRINGTON CAM BEARING

As for cams Andrews do them (N series), T-Man, Woods & I think Kuryakyn even do them