Hi All

Well all except paying for it, I just won auction on 1943 WLA - one of the 7 bikes put up by a collector in Las Vegas who is moving to Melbourne with bikes already booked in container. Did anyone else out there have a win on one of these collector bikes? If so have you transferred funds & commenced any importing paperwork yet?

Cheers, still holding breathe and will do until I have my hands on it...

Congrats mate,

but you need to have import papers before she gets here... Department of Infrastructure...                    

Contact the department asap...

Vehicle Imports Enquiries:

Ph: 1800 815 272
Fax: (02) 6274 6013

and pay by paypal safesty way...also check if you are covered by them as well.

all the best, when you get her post some pics.

cheers

 

mick I reckon you should consider some form of secondary proof before payment-- I dunno, maybe a bill of lading or some form of shipping evidence on the container (but a scammer would probably have this covered somehow); definitely pay by PayPal and use a credit card preferably--whatever you do don't transfer money directly into his account unless you are 200% sure it's legit.

As an idea can you have someone in Lost Wages confirm he is legitimate?

Also a CHEAPER than what would be expected price in itself can be a cause for alarm...

Not trying to scare ya-- I've had very good experiences buying overseas-- but don't want to see you get ripped.... tread carefully....

If they are in the container on the way, he would have

- the Bill of Lading

- insurance to cover the bikes in transit

- documentation allowing the export from the US

All of these items would detail the same exactly, what is in the container, the chassis and engine numbers, the values. Any 1 number changes, then its all bullshit. These agencies would not allow any single digit errors.

Also, if he is selling in $AU, and coming to Australia, then no worries, you can pay in $AU when he arrives, and you collect, as it would be "irresponsible of you to send the funds in $AU to the US" and let him make a loss on the exchange when he transfers the funds back to Aust. So, you are "doing him a favour" by giving him the cash when it all arrives. Take the hint.

It would be just lovely if it is all 100% and you get this without any problems, and I hope everything is cool and works out for you, as I am sure this would be a dream for many of us, but, get all the docs 110% before cash moves, as the docs should be available immediately. When he faxes them to you, and he will have to fax them as they will not be electronic docs, check all the header and footer details.

hope it all works out mick there was some good bikes there.

if he is bringing all these bikes to Oz, and supposedly they are in a container, than HE should already have all the paperwork in order, otherwise they will be refused entry into the country,
there are also paypal scams in operation around the world, be carefull

If he's coming to OZ just pay him when he gets here.

 Hi Mick67, i won the bid on one of the WLA as well have not paid yet but have done some reserch, would be good to have a chat call me on 0418763551

Hey gents (if you don't mind), if this is not above board (i hope it is),, it may pay to let everyone know what is going on (within reason) so no one else falls for any scams.  We all work hard for our dollars. 

 

Hey Fella's at moment things are still up in the air for me & Natdog - both of us haven't paid as seller is still reluctant to supply proof of ownership and other paperwork requested as per guidance given on this forum ie bill of lading, customs documents, shipping information until payment is made in full. Some things that I have found out in my research is that you are not covered for disputes by Paypal for vehicles purchased on ebay. After several e-mail back and forth seller keeps avoiding questions of paperwork for ownership.

All buyers are in Oz and I believe three other winners have paid, I have3 contacted all thru ebay with only one response and he has paid and is now concerned as he to assumed Paypal would cover non-supply of bike.

Am I being to cautious? As stated we work too bloody hard for dollars to give away to some scam artist...will keep you all posted.

Cheers

p.s. he will not accept part payment or payment in Melbourne...

I've been scammed on Ebay so if it was me,unless he accepted payment once the bikes were able to be viewed I would give it a miss...Another bike will come along...

 

Cheers...Sparra

seller is still reluctant to supply proof of ownership and other paperwork requested as per guidance given on this forum ie bill of lading, customs documents, shipping information until payment is made in full.

Hey Mick, sorry that this dream bubble is about to burst. If he will not supply any docs, then he doesnt have them. I would report to ebay that this is a scam before the others pay. I dont think he expected you to ask for these docs, as not everyone would be aware that this all exists. Ive been dealing with pimples all over the world too long, and have learnt, if it smells like shit, well it aint clay. See how it goes, but I wouldn't expect too much. Sometimes these things happen for a reason, so keep your eyes open, as the next ticket might be the winner.

Mick, are you being cautious? yes, are you being smart? Definitaly!! and thats what counts. It goes to show the importance of this forum once again.

Mooky, totally agree about the importance of the HD Forum and I thank ALL that have given me advise and will certainly inform of the outcome. Thanks to everyone.

Mick, have you had any communication with the seller since your last posting?

Hi All

Well story so far, more than likely the last, have been meaning to update everyone. After several e-mails back and forward to the seller asking for proof of ownership and other paperwork to do with shipping etc. at the same time I reported seller to e-bay as being suspect due to little or no response...Finally received a scanned document from the seller (it looked similiar to our registration renewals) all started to look bgood and I got excited, however still being the sceptic and not one to part that quickly with a hard earned $13,000, I waited until the following morning to call the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles.

I was informed by Nevada DMV that the license number on the scanned document was linked to a travel trailer (camper trailer) and registration had expired in 2005, phew lucky I did that check, then the same day I received the below advise from e-bay:

We're writing to let you know that the listing for the following item you bid on has been removed:

330389516713 - 1942 WLA Harley Davidson from a Collector NO RESERVE

We strongly recommend that you do not complete this purchase. Purchases of items listed on eBay but then completed outside of eBay are extremely risky. They are not covered by eBay buyer protection programs and are highly susceptible to fraud.

For more information on offers to buy or sell outside of eBay, please go to:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html

-- If you've already paid --
If you've already paid for this item but haven't received it, please remember that:
-- You have 45 days after the date that the listing ended to open a case with the seller on eBay.
-- You'll need to wait at least 3 days after the estimated date of delivery or 7 days after you paid (if no estimated delivery date was given) to open a case.
-- To open a case in eBay, click the "Contact us" link in the upper right corner of the eBay home page. Click the "My item hasn't arrived yet, what do I do?" link, and follow the instructions.
-- If you've already opened a case on eBay, you can go here to check the status:
http://resolutioncenter.ebay.com

If you paid by PayPal and the payment hasn't been claimed, you can cancel your PayPal payment by following these steps:
1. Log in to your PayPal account.
2. In the "My Account" section, click the "History" link.
3. Click "Cancel" in the "Order status/Actions" column of the payment you want to cancel.
4. Click "Cancel Payment."
Note: You won't be able to cancel the payment if it's been claimed.

-- If you paid by Western Union or MoneyGram, contact the company directly (Western Union 800-325-6000 or MoneyGram 800-926-9400).
-- If you paid by check, contact your bank to stop payment.
-- If you paid by credit card, contact your credit card company.

Our goal is to keep eBay safe so you can buy confidently. It's rare that something goes wrong with a transaction on eBay. Whenever these events do occur, we try to help as much as possible to resolve the issue.

 

I have since talked to three people via e-mail that did pay for their winning bids (it appears 3 were paid for 'cause I still have the information in Myebay inbox all others have been removed from e-bay), one I have spoke to on the phone and have asked for him to update me with any other communication from seller - natdog off here who I only just spoke with yesterday didn't pay and received the same e-mail from e-bay, he has tried to contact the seller and surprising he has not responded...

As mentioned b4 thanks for all the advise given on here, I believe this will be my last comment on this story, unless it is to report that I am kicking myself due to the WLA's showing up in Melbourne on 27th Feb...

Cheers

That's a great story Mick and gives us all good warning of what can, and nearly did, go very wrong. Contacting the Nevada DMV was a good call. Camper trailer ay?!! Sly prick!

I imported a Vintage motocross bike from Canada but it was from a Dealer and we'd phoned and e-mailed often. My only concern was wondering if the container might fall off the Ship or some such diaster! But yours!

I buy a shitload of stuff from e-bay and that includes six bikes over time - all from OZ. Trusting the description from interstate sellers is a tad dodgy but overall the experience has been good. Overseas sellers have a real advantage if they're dodgy pricks coz it's extremely difficult to chase from over here. Anyway, happy endings so all good. Good luck chasing a WLA next time.