Went for my defect inspection today and got it removed.  Cop this they didn't even do a loudness test.

Anyway I thought I'd make note that he mentioned a lot of bikes getting done for no rear red reflector, ie around the number plate.  He marked it down on the system for me but still passed me.

Those going for inspections might just want to chuck a sticky reflecter on for the test.

Cheers,

Kingchops

Did you change your slipons back to stock KC?

My bike didnt even come from the dealer with a red rear reflector. I guess the cops will be looking for spokiedokes as well.

Greg,

Yeah, it was a new one on me I didn't know it was required, I think mine may have had one around the dealer number plate frame I can't even remember.

Yes I put the stock piples back on. Thanks to Loftybob who lent me a set of stock pipes.

Just re-fitted the reflector for my inspection this afternoon. I wonder why you need a reflector when your rear tail light is hard wired and on all the time. Thanks for the tip mate.

On my Fat Boy the number plate surround fitted by Peter Stevens (Adelaide) actually covered the stock reflector at the base of the number plate mount. Although the lights are a hardwired, I believe they are there incase the bulb fails. Rear red reflector is an ADR requirement.

Interesting stuff

What about the side reflectors everyone takes off, Are they a requirement for ADR as well?

Cheers

Thanks KC

Ive got the red DOT reflector as a requirement on my side car guard 350mm from the road.

first ive heard of a reflector on the back of a bike

SA sounds like hard work, hope this dumb bunch of fucks here in w.a dont go down the same road.

with these dumb requirements.

Just got back from Regency, and they gave the Fatty the going over. Noise test as well And guess what, it failed at 94.5 decibles with the stock mufflers on. W.T.F's going on. All is good though as they are allowed to give a 1 decible allowance,which means it just made it in with a 1/2 db margin. Must of got the same lad as you KC as he mentioned he had checked a Sporty in the morning.

Thank fuck thats over with, now to fight the fine.

The inspection blokes gave me a full copy of the testing requirements for noise testing of motorcycles. After reading through the requirements, it looks as if we have a few grounds for having the fines withdrawn.

1. The microphone must be secured in a holding jig. (Not hand held as in our case)

2. There must bo no objects or people, other than the testers & rider within 3 metres of the bike being tested.(Not 6-12" as in our case)

3. Harley Davidson motorcycles must be reved to 2,500 RPM to obtain a db reading(most of the bikes tested had no tacho's, and the testers had no means of determining engine speed)

I have written to the Manager Expiation Branch asking for the fine to be withdrawn, and if that doesn't work, my lawyer is prepaired to go to court (free of charge) as he is sick of these bastards.

Regards.

 

Lofty,

Good to hear you got through although sounds like a close shave.

Yep, those cops on the day deffinately failed all three criteria of the test. The photo I took on the day clearly shows they failed number two.

If you do end up going to court I'd be happy to be a witness as to the way the cops conducted the test.

Way to go LOFTYBOB    thats it stick together and stick it up em

Good luck

Cheers mate Hopefully it wont come to that.

one of the BACA blokes went this morning, the blue dyna with the supertrap on , ,  they checkt his braking blinkers etc and took defect of , no noise check, its now back to normal

Good Luck with it all guys hope it all turns out ok
Cheers and Beers
Slider

 

Copy of the letter I have sent, there are a few more testing proceedures that were not done correctly like calibrating the microphone after each test. I will save them for the court date if it goes that far.

 

Bob XXXXXXXXX                                                                                                                                             Manager

XXXXXXXXXXX                                                                                                                                               Expiation Notice Branch

XXXXXXXXXXX                                                                                                                                               GPO Box 2029

                                                                                                                                                                                Adelaide SA 5001

 

References: A. Expiation Notice # D7611605A

                       B. National Stationary Noise Test Procedures for In-Service Motor Vehicles

 

Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing to you to request the above Expiation Notice be withdrawn due to concerns of the legality of the testing regime that led to the notice being issued.

 

Situation  Paragraphs 2.3 and 4.2.3.3 motorcycle (ii)

The rotational speed of the engine shall be measured by either an external tachometer or the vehicles tachometer.

The motorcycle (Harley Davidson) is required to be run to an engine speed of 2,500 RPM to obtain a decibel reading.

 

Concern

My Harley Davidson, model (FLSTF), does not have a tachometer fitted, and the testing officer did not have any device to measure engine revolutions.  How could the test be conducted accurately if there was no means to measure engine revolutions?

 

Situation 2 Paragraph 3.3

Test site ambient requirements; require that no other person or objects, other than those required to conduct the test and the rider, to be within 3 metres of the microphone in use.

 

Concern

As the photo (attached) clearly shows, 6 motorcycles parked within 6 – 12” of each other, as well there was a police van parked within 1 metre of the last motorcycle in the queue, 11 motorcycles in total, whilst the noise tests were being conducted.

There was also a constant stream of traffic, both cars and semi trailers, driving along Angle Vale Rd and within 1 metre of my motorcycle as the test was being conducted.

 

Situation 3 Paragraph 4.1.1

The microphone shall be supported by a tripod or similar device not providing excessive acoustic reflection.

 

Concern

No such microphone support was used during the testing, and the microphone was being hand held in different locations to obtain a reading.

 

Conclusion,

 I believe the Expiation Notice #D7611605 A should be withdrawn due to the above concerns, and to save further expense of the matter going to court.

The motorcycle has been to the Vehicle Inspection Station, and been cleared of the defect notice, and I believe that if the testing had been conducted correctly in the first place I would not have been issued the defect notice and the expiation notice.

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

Bob XXXXXXX.

9^th April 08

That letter is GOLD mate ...bore it up em......

I reckon youve got em cold.

I have got a copy thanks Bano, and if anyone else wants one, PM me and I'll send one out.

My Fatty is only 8 weeks old, and it went 1/2 db over the 94db maximum with the stock mufflers fitted. If it wasn't for the 1db allowance they can give, my brand new bike would be illegal with the stock exhaust system fitted. Bit of a worry that one.

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, Forgot about that.

Interesting post, I've been done on the old bike with SE 11 mufflers, had to do the swap to standard mufflers to get the yellow sticker removed. Then back home to reverse the job. ($64 later ....in 2003) Funnily enough I was messing about in the shed yesteday, and opened the box with my old "new" muffllers off the Road King. Also in the box was a number plate backing plate that had a red reflector strip along the bottom. I got a rear rack put on the bike before delivery and the rack attaches to the number plate mount, in fact replaces the number plate backing plate. So the new bikes must have this reflector..........mmmmmm should I stick it back on, covering the shop advertising?
TC