Rear Wheel bearings collapsing

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  • Bender
    Bender
    15 years ago

    Just back from a ride down south and had a right hand rear wheel bearing collapse, I ride a 08 rocker and with 28000 on the clock was suprised. But this is happening alot in the newer bikes. Get em checked you may have a off if they go at high speed. Fuck the factory cost cutting.

  • Ozbiker69
    Ozbiker69
    15 years ago
    Hi Bender, just wondering if you meet a biker over a Deception Bay on your way down south? Shit that is bad about the wheel bearing as well.
  • 1elcys
    1elcys
    15 years ago
    Mines got about 26k on it and handling has definately changed, more movement in the rear than normal, best I check it out!
    thanks for the warning.
  • Magilla
    Magilla
    15 years ago

    Had the front wheel bearings changed at 8k. under warranty. Stealer reckoned they were rooted

  • wildchild
    wildchild
    15 years ago

    That sucks,

    Thanks for the heads up will be sure to check my bearings each tire change....maybe replace every second tire change to be on the safe side.

  • twincam88b
    twincam88b
    15 years ago
    Good to know, thanks.
  • mooky160
    mooky160
    15 years ago

    bender, below is a post I made a couple of months ago about the same problem.  The guy from the shop told me it was not the bearings as they are OEM, it is the rear hub.

     

    Mook

    All,

        Riding down the hwy doing about 120km, i felt a grinding in the rear, pulled over to have a look and found that the majority of bearings in the right side of the rear hub were missing (counted about three left).  called up the shop and they came and picked up the bike.  When speaking to the guy he informed me it was a common fault with the hubs, not the bearings ( i ride a 2008 FXST).  Luckily it is still covered by warranty.  my advice is check your rear hubs and make sure you haven't lost any bearings.

  • Ozbiker69
    Ozbiker69
    15 years ago
    I meet a few of the guys from Townsville over at the Deception Bay shopping centre and they where from the same social club?
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    15 years ago

    Just reading this, i got an 01 FXD original bearings front and rear they are sealed ball, got around 90,000 up. must be to do with the wide wheels they use might not have bearings to match extra stress?

  • Bender
    Bender
    15 years ago
    Yeah should sell up and buy a road king or street glide
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    15 years ago

    Hey Bender, don't feel that way mate!

    hey i just thought of something that could solve your problem, would be much easier if i could see your bike and also show you what i use on my bike, but i'll have a go at putting in into word's and see if you can understand what i mean or am describing.

    well i got this idea many years ago and from mates that raced harleys.

    i had this old shovel stroker that i used to drag race once in a while and did a lot of miles on runs, everytime i took it to the track it would bend the rear axle bad, it was always hard to get the axle out too, i'd pull it out and you could see the bend in it, they would also only let me have three pass's at the track as the old shovel made too much noise they had the EPA track side. but only took a pass to bend an axle. i got axles made from toughest metal i could still bent them, then  i was talking to a racer mate from QLD and he had a huge slick and his axle was not that thick, i asked him if he bent axles he said NO. so i told him about my problem, he told me to get the bearing as close to the edge od the swingarm as possible. so i had out rigger bearing support made up by a mate it's alloy and it bolts on to the drive side of the axle outside the rear sproket or belt drive, it takes the place of the spacer and it has its own sealed ball bearing inside. i showed my mate from Taz thats now up QLD what i had and he made his own he used them both sides both brake side and drive side. i think this would help you as it would give you more support for the big wheel. another note i have never bent an axle since useing this idea and my twin cam dyna has one too.

    cheers

  • Bender
    Bender
    15 years ago
    Yeah you may have a valid point there with the over tightened axle. Fuck Harleys are a worry, ive owned jappas and never had half the fuck arounds with shitty workmanship or faulty gear. So far the Rockers had the oil drain line replaced as it perished, the rubber covers on shift linkage fucked, brake res cover leaking and the wheel bearing problem and now the front brake switch is pissin me off with switch active the brake lite flickers and you have to hold the fucker out....piston is sticking in res and not releasing properly apparently I ride too far and dust gets in. The excuses are getting more n more fucked.
  • pistol pete
    pistol pete
    15 years ago

    me mates 08 sporty had 30,000km on the clock same thing happend to him up the coast threw the casing and lost half the ball bearings inside, my 08 nightster just had the swingarm bearings replaced at 26000km as they flogged out me arse end was shakey as id grab the back wheel and move side to side the whole swingarm had a inch of play  looser than a brunswick street hooker making me belt rub,made in china assembled in america gotta love it

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    15 years ago

    Well what i said about adding another bearing to add support would help. i think thats the smart way unless HD are fixing these free. the extra sealed bearing goes outside the drive belt but is bolted to the wheel so add's another bearing for extra support. seems there is a problem here. if a dog pissed on my leg i would not turn around and let it piss on my other leg.

    cheers

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    15 years ago

    Hey Hilly, i could take a picture, but buggered if i know how to post it up?

    but i was checking out a Riviera part's catalog my m8 had last night and i see they have the same thing in it to suit a wide variety of models mine just fit my model and does not use a spacer ( you know how there is a spacer on belt side ) this support i have just bolts to the outside of the drive sprocket or drive pully on rear wheel takes the place of that spacer and has a sealede ball bearing as part of it.

    if someone can explain how or give me an e mail adress to forward too i can take a pic of it . as i like helping others. anyone with a lathe could make one up easy enough.

     

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    15 years ago

    That's it Scotty! good on you mate.

    Hilly mine is just the same as that, but it is one peice with just a thin shim between swingar and support, the Riviera one is made to suit a few models so comes with different spacers and is not quite as wide as mine but does the same job and would help minimize this bearing problem. i meet guys that do lots of burn outs and one colapsed the old roller bearings on an EVO he got same as me made up no more rear wheel bearing problems.

    i'll be racing in Screamin eagle tomorrow as round of track championship, so will have to wait till monday night till i can take a pic and e mail i'll pm you

    cheers

  • mooky160
    mooky160
    15 years ago
    Scotty,

    I raised this point a few months ago, and it appears to be on the increase with the newer bikes. do you know who provides the bearings for Harley's, and did they change their supplier in the last couple of years? or is it possible that the problem could be with the hubs as mentioned to me by a dealer?

    Mook
  • Bender
    Bender
    15 years ago

     its still goin on and harley say its ok

  • grahamjb
    grahamjb
    15 years ago

    The manual for my FLHX says that premature bearing failure may happen if the rear axle is not correctly torqued to specification

    "The compensator sprocket bearing has a split inner race that
    requires proper compression. Deviation from the following
    procedure may lead to premature bearing failure.
    17. Holding weld nut on left side of axle, proceed as follows:
    a. Tighten cone nut to 95-105 ft-lbs (128.8-142.4 Nm).
    b. Loosen cone nut one full turn.
    c. Retighten cone nut to above specification."

  • philthy
    philthy
    10 years ago

    Only a few yrs after the posts!! Ha ha haaa.. Replacing my original rear 08 Rocker bearings at 40,000k's. The numbers/letters on the original bearing are: DK F-559018  and HD9276. 9276 is the same number in my spare parts cat. So it looks like DK make bearings for HD?  My problem now is that I bought new bearings (orig had slight bit of sideways play in them,so while doing tyre change replaced em) and the shop guy matched up HD9276 with NTN LLUC3/2AS   T11308. Had the old bearings pulled out and replaced with these NTN's. Put the back wheel back in the bike and the disc is scraping on the mounting bracket slightly. All spacers/washers in the right way.Double/triple checked. The disc scrapes when axle-nut not tightened, or is tightened up. The only thing I can think of (I'm not a mechanic!) is bearings not in far enough? Or are these bearings a ml or 2 out? Can use guys tell by reading bearing numbers above if I've been sold wrong bearings? Pulling me fucking hair out trying to sort it by meself. When I bought these new bearings,I just went by the bearing number from the front wheel bearing receipt when I replaced them a while back. Its the same numbers for front and rear. Tips appreciated. Ha!! and its a fucking BLUE ROCKER,maybe thats the prob.....          

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