Well was not sure were this should be posted, but here goes.

What do you think of the xr1200? i'm just thinking i might get one to ride and race it in screamin eagle harleys, i would just leave it stock as that class only has a 12.99 qualifying time.

i was looking today but as yet have not test road on. i told the salesman i thought they just had a stock 1200 sporster motor but he seemed to think they had more. does anyone know?

also was wondering if there is a Screamin Eagle race tunner for these bikes? i would also want to fit ignition or fuel cut out to gear shift for flat clutchless shifts.

would be good to hear what you all think and what anyone knows.

cheers

 

its got buell cams, an oil gallery that circles the exhaust valve, and a buell style downdraft intake. the airbox is pretty restrictive n will be a bit of mucking around to improve it, the also have a higher compression ratio than the xl. there are a few pipes around for em hi flo foam air cleaners n the standard supertuner works but there is only one map called only "race" which works pretty well with an air cleaner and exhaust.

hi , i heard they are starting or have a road race series in england / europe as per the ( roaring sporties / 883 twin sports ) i don't know for sure, if they do they should bring out some good gear for them if thats the case,
its good to see you buying a sportster type bike at ( did you say 60yrs old ) to race , thats great good on ya , hey good luck. cheers

Thanks all for reply's, i always thought Buell's have stock sportster cams, as i have a friend that owns  a few tube frame buell's, and have raced with guys that ride the later model with the push rod motors did not go that fast , stock.

i was hoping there was a race tunner like the V-Rod Destroyers have with ability to make own maps.

i think i'll just keep doing what i'm doing with the Dyna twin cam. i might buy myself a G2 126" with B2 heads drop it into the dyna.

yeh i'm 60 mate and doing quicker times now than when i was younger.

 

this is of track a bit , but we had the spare xr 1200 jump bike out on the week end this bike isnt as radical in the suspension as seths main jump bike, my bosses son ran it motocross trackand had a ball then we chucked young brodie waters on the flat track brodie rides supersport for honda and is a local flat track champ, hes built like a jockey and only 17 but he threw the big girl around the track like it was nothing it was a really cool thing to see

remus has got a great pipe for the new xr1200 2in1 system sounds awesome ..

Hey All

thanks, sounds impressive if you can ride them on a MX track as they weight 580pound must have one great suspension.

Hey Rodders, i don't know for sure, but i have seen a Few Late Buells on the track and i would bet the 100hp is measured at the flywheel not rear wheel as they are light but trap speeds are not that high, still with a good rider they do ok times, from low 12's to high 11's.

I don't want a Destroyer, but they are a great ready to race bike, i have a few friends up here in Sydney that race them and have meet racers from other states that race them.  the Morgan& Wacker team has put down some good times, at one time they were a lot quicker and faster than anyone. but the Sy's Harley team have been runing about the same times as them. the rider makes a difference, and how they set the bike up, also what fuel they use and if they have it tuned right for the fuel. Daniel at Blacktown Harley has been doing some quick times lately too. i think best time i've seen was about 9.3 @ around 140mph but normal size rider not a jokey.

with ANDRA they don't allow Club colours but thats how they have always been, but if you race non ANDRA meet can't see a problem.

That price is a good price for a Destroyer as the amount of equipment and just how much goes into them you could not build one for close to that price, they put out about 160HP as they come, but think they are small horses

cheers.

Here's one, I think he's dreaming a bit on price, and they think it's the same as a xl1200r ???? Weird

cgi.ebay.com.au/2009-HARLEY-ROADSTER-XR1200-LOW-K-s-EXTRAS-XL1200R_W0QQitemZ230350990080

Price is high, when you can walk into a HD dealer and buy one new about same price.

also that two into one pipe is not the best design i have seen, pipes can make a difference on some motors, just this is only 74 cubic inch, but see how the collector of this two into one looks about same diamiter as one of the two pipes it is going into, when you also take into account the muffler seems a bit restrictive. good for low end Torque i'm sure but not top end HP.

 

yeah fitted 2 remus 2-1 systems they sound real good, the buells are to hard to get off the line quick cos the wheel base is so short, but the handle great. the xr would be pretty easy to get good power, set of rev perf nikasil big bore barrels n pistons cams head work n fix the F'n shockin air box. then it would be a seriously fun bike cos the handle n stop great.

hi krash, the HP is taken from the flywheels as all the jappers do to it . because your talking about the motor + it comes up a bigger number its all sales hype,
if it does't state rear wheel HP, take it as at the crankshaft i know the tube frame buels were taken at 101 at the crank thats the X1. i did 11.8 at the creek with a wheel stand at the end of 1st gear every time but i rode it to there & rode it home & then to work the next morning ,
& then i rode her to the creek again a month later took the lights off & then road race on the main circuit, got her down to a 1.51 sec lap time just started to scrape under the bike a bit & just come back from there as to not mark up the bike to much ,
had her ready to ride home in about an 1 hr , lights back on etc & then rode her home again , race on sunday ride to work on monday i loved that bike but it was to much fun on the street , the local boys in blue said so , i had to sell her,
it was 1 of the most enjoyable bikes i ever had, they don't like you to have to much fun ? but on the other hand a elcheapo sportie could be just as much fun you could pick 1 up real cheap & make that into & little gaint killer if your light enough , ive pulled 11.4 @ 117 mph on a street based bike, 1200 with just s/e cams 9.9 comp ratio on treaded tyres no sissie bars (wheelie bars ) back in 1996 on a stock modified cv carb that was fun too , with a big bore kit etc most prob work- out cheaper than a big motor for your dyna, cheers

hi . i have a friend who wants me to have a go on his mild v-rod just for fun i'am not a fan of bikes with foward controls because i have some old injurys 3 slipped disc in the neck c4 c5 c6 ,
+ i broke disc L5 in the lower back @ oran pk. ive put a little weight on also iam up to about 70 + KLS i use to be 56KLS ,
i have done 10.1 ET @ 133MPH on a S&S 124 dyna on the 3rd run in tuning & that was with a jammed 4th gear i had to shift twice for 4th, 1.61 sec 60 foot treaded rear tyre no sissy bar, when i ran the sportie that was also a 1.61 sec 60FT. i need to lose some weight & get a bit of fittness up first i think , but i do want to have a go , iam not as old as you are iam 53 but i could catch up, cheers

1.7 60ft on a Buell S1 no wheelie bars stock everything 74 cubic inch is good time mate, anytime you want to try to do quicker on that bike your welcome to try. i know i could not do it on that bike.with 90KG rider, but he has front low and has strut on rear, on some bikes a strut works on others it don't. but like Daddy racer did 1.6 60ft on 124" with a motor that has TQ and good rider low 60ft become easy, some motors have no guts, that buell is over camed and only has about 170pound cranking and with a 90KG rider plus leathers and gear i think thats a good 60ft. my  other mate does 1.0 60ft

 

Hey Daddyracer we need more like you mate! thats a great time on a 124", did it have stock length swingarm or was it set up for the 124" challenge? 10.1 is stout! and with your weight you have it made!

I hate forward controls too, the V-Rod is perfect for drag racing, just have to look at them to see that, but when they made that model with mid conrols that was the best, then they took them away and can only have forward controls, but still you should come out have a go!

i think first round of screamin Eagle harleys is 1st august you can enter no worries mate, its like a big party we all pit together race together have a bbq and bull shit together, no rules just no wheelie bars but anything else ok one guy has NOS and there are some big inch and some sportsters V-Rods & Buell's. just need leather jacket boots full face helmet that meets snell 2000 AU NZ standards $110 entry with three free pass's.

hi krash , the 124  dyna did have a slightly longer than std lenght swinging-arm about 2'  i think from memory + a bit of slight rake . that also had B2 heads  , b2 heads are listed as 12.5 comp ratio with the b2 pistons its not just the heads, i did the port& polishing + set the  D series carb up   on her,

for doing the ports & polishing he offered me 3 runs only ,  the bike already had a g/box problem  when i rode the bike it had a bad flat spot in the carb on the 1st  pass  apperantly thats how it left the dyno in sydney,i never raced this track  or bike before. my 1 st pass was a   0.020 RT time ,10.7 ET with a flat spot in the carb, the 2nd pass 10.5 @ 132 mph but spun half way through 3 rd gear  thats after i re-jetted the carb at the track in the dark , no more flat spot , the 3rd pass  was the 10.1 @133 with a dickie 4th gear shift ,

that is the most powerful bike i have ever ridden it was a blast i do belive the bike  has more in her  as the g/box  i think robbed a bit of power , but i don't think it would make a real good street bike as it ran  shell  LL /100 fuel  4.1" bore X 4. 5/8" stroke, 640 lift cam

 are the new 126 a shorter stroke ?

. i mostly do a 1.6 something 60 ft even on the buel or the sportie  if i don't do a 1.6  i'am not happy with myself , you would love a big donk  its  feel + power  i'am pretty sure you could get her into the 9s with no sissy bars with some work ,

i'am not too sure about the street bike bit part , i think i will come out on the 1 august i will make sure i can get a ride .

on the nikasil barrels ? the olds  days it was hardchrome  but they can wear just like any thing else .i use axtell cast iron big bore barrells as they are stronger & don't distort or expand  like the alloys ones ,

 they are harder to work with set-up clearance + tune etc , but alloy/nikasil is lighter ,the  alloy barrel expands alot more with the piston heat expansion as doe's the alloy barrel ,an alloy barrel can grow 0.030" to 0.080" in lenght + 0.04" to 0.006" in dia,

thats most prob why the nikisal cracks it can't expand with the alloy barrel  + the long stroke of a harley  45deg

v-twin giving the bore a hard time, with the cast-iron barrel i ceramic coat the piston crown + teflon coat the skirts  + 45 deg inboard shamfer  under the piston  to deflect oil on the down stroke up under the crown  to  help keep  the crown cooler then the piston has less expandsion in the cast iron cly  + i run a bit of extra piston clearance on faster  engines.   cheers

 

Daddyracer, be good to see you again at the track mate, only one guy you could be as not many that can ride like you mate.

i remember seeing you at eastern creek one day when you raced Roaring sporty's, all the top names were there, and you was on front line and when the flag dropped you went away from the field did not think they would ever catch you think Robby Hermans was in hot persuit for just about whole race.

That 126" i speek of is a different motor to the 124", it 's george Smith & George ? uses Special aplication cases as the cam geometry is supposed to be better bore size is about 4 1/4" stroke is i think 4 1/4" too B2 heads stock choice of carb or EFI but i hate lap tops, they run the 640 lift cams but comp is lower as this bike was built with long runs in mind and runs pump gas in USA but they take there octain from the Pump not refinery think they said 92 octain PON prob 98 here. the pistons have a lot more skirt than the 124". i've seen inside one but only seen one here, a guy has it on a street harley.

but still only thinking, i know i would love it!!

Well i have to be truthfull, my sixty foots have gone down as my age went up, but i got around it with a bit more HP, now i have taken less Hp but more torque down low still 95" and just getting feel of cam change.

i think i'd run the CV51 on the 126" as easy to use, i've used the s&s D on my 95" worked good from 3,000 up but i back off shift clutchless the D did not like that too much, the CV works good on it. i would like an ignition cut out but got a lend of a hole shot set up and would not work, so will just keep backing off .

That would be something to see a Harley frame dyna 124" run 9's no wheelybar that would get them to take note! there is also a heads up class you could run in against all Haybussa's, you could put the wind up them as its pro tree with a quick reaction time and pro tree you can make up a lot of difference. so far that class is only in Queensland.

i think i've written another novel! cheers