First ever demerit point

  • Magilla
    Magilla
    16 years ago

    Remember the night well.

    The car next to me was actually going past me at the time. I noticed the 2 flashes from the camera and looked down at my speedo. I was doing around 84-85k/hr. They reckon I was doing 94!! The car was doing about 94 as he was going past me at the time!!

    How accurate are Harley speedo's?

    Have I got a case to fight here? Did the camera detect the car speed and they have pinged me?

    How do ya dispute this?

    Any suggestions?

  • Fangio
    Fangio
    16 years ago

    dispute this...make them say it was you and not the car...they have to prove beyound doubt...i have heard that if more than one vehicle is in the photo they blanket send out infrigment notices and hope that someone pays...of course seek leagl advise, but this cost money...hope you kick some arse brother

  • robert65
    robert65
    16 years ago
    write them a letter being your first time and all they will probably let you off , make your case sound good though. goodluck with it.
  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    16 years ago

    You're gone mate, the speed is detected from the two strips of metal in the road that are positioned past the stopping line.  As your bike has tripped the two strips, and the car hasn't even crossed them yet, the speed detected must have come from your bike.

    Red light / speed cameras rely on the two strips of metal in the road, they don't rely on a radar as per the normal dedicated speen detecting devices.

    Sorry to bust your bubble, but you wont be able to fight this one on the evidence you have provided.

    Regards Bob

  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    16 years ago

    If the device used to detect a speeding vehicle was a radar type device (mobile speed camera) then you would have received a calibration notification on your infringement notice. As the speed / red light camera that detected your infringement doesn't rely on radar (and therefore doesn't require calibration) there wont be a calibration notification present on the notice.

    All vehicles, regardless of wheel size, will read the correct speed after triggering the first wire to the time taken to reach & trigger the second wire.

    Next time you are at that intersection, have a look at the two sensors embedded in the road just past the the stopping line. These strips are also used for detecting the red light runners. If, after the light turns red, the first sensor detects a vehicle has past over it, it will trigger the camera to take a photo. The second sensor will do the same (hense the double flash) That way the filth can detect if someone has just overshot the stopping line, or run the red light.

    Sorry about the news mate, but I learnt all this the same way as you

    Regards Bob

  • Hidiho
    Hidiho
    16 years ago
    I got done by a Speed Camera (but no lines on the road, just a speed sensor on the camera) doing 113 Kph in a 90Kph zone...........and got off.

    But I had a pretty good excuse though, the BUS I was driving was governed to 82Kph and GOING UP HILL at the time of the offence, I just emailed a copy of the engineers report to the AFP Traffic Division stating that the bus was incapable of doing those speeds and they just dropped the fine.
  • hattown.nt
    hattown.nt
    16 years ago
    I'm always worrying about going through fixed cameras in the left lane whilst in the truck, My worry is a car speeding through beside me in the right lane
    and the camera taking my rego as I'm blocking the line of site of the car...
  • black29d
    black29d
    16 years ago

    You should be able to challenge it, as they is two  in the photo, I think they are only able to issue an tickect when only one velichle is in the photo

     

    They can't determine which one is committing the speeding offence.

     

    Seek legal advice would be mi course of action

  • Fat-Boy
    Fat-Boy
    16 years ago
    Do what Fangio suggested....i've also heard this. There has to be only one vehicle in the photo for it to stick....
  • Magilla
    Magilla
    16 years ago

    mmmmmmmm, the superintendant of traffic is an old mate form 15 odd years ago. Had a few beers with him in days gone past. As cops go, this bloke is a real fair dinkum bloke. Loves his beer. His name is on the notice as the issing officer

    Might catch up with him and see how life is treating him

  • black29d
    black29d
    16 years ago

    A timely piece from ACA last night, just on this subject

     

    Queensland police are doing this on a regular basis

    One mother who copped it fought it and won, but cost a couple of grand in legal cost and a couple of court appearances, But this isn't the end,

    Queensland police are appleaing the courts decicion

     

    Here is a link to have a look at

     

    www.speedingfineconsultants.com/